From langj at bellsouth.net Tue Jun 18 10:41:36 2002 From: langj at bellsouth.net (joseph lang) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 20:41:36 -0400 Subject: [pups] bsd2.11 kernel compile Message-ID: <3D0E81C0.9046BF5D@bellsouth.net> I am building a PDP 11 from junked parts and have it mostly working. I'm now installing BSD 2.11 and have run into a problem i could use some help with. When compiling a new kernel (to include network) I get an error ld: too big for type 431 *** exit 2 I assume this error is due to one of the overlays being too large. (this is pointed out in the install docs) How do I figure out which overlay (or base) is the problem? The random module shuffle in the documents only has 10 million combinations and at 30 minutes to compile, well I'm not going to live that long. Is there a more scientific way to arrange the overlays? Am I missing something obvious? joe lang langj at bellsouth.net From chd_1 at nktelco.net Tue Jun 18 12:40:55 2002 From: chd_1 at nktelco.net (Chuck Dickman) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 22:40:55 -0400 Subject: [pups] bsd2.11 kernel compile References: <3D0E81C0.9046BF5D@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <3D0E9DB7.988203A@nktelco.net> joseph lang wrote: > When compiling a new kernel (to include network) I get an error > > ld: too big for type 431 > *** exit 2 > > I assume this error is due to one of the overlays being too > large. (this is pointed out in the install docs) During the compile 'size' outputs a list of the sizes of the overlays. Look at the output. For mine.... # size unix ! the OS kernel text data bss dec hex 55296 6492 20738 82526 1425e total text: 106752 overlays: 7744,7360,7872,7296,3072,7680,4864,5568 # size netnix ! the network code text data bss dec hex 60864 2362 38448 101674 18d2a > How do I figure out which overlay (or base) is the problem? The base must be less than 7 8k pages or 57344(decimal) bytes. Each overlay must be less than 8k bytes or 8192(decimal). The network code is not overlayed, so you have 8 pages or the full 64k. > Is there a more scientific way to arrange the overlays? To make it work, just get the sizes below the limits. The optimal arrangement would be placing the code in such that the overlay changes were minimized. So... move your system disk drivers into base and change the configuration to remove any hardware you don't actually have. > Am I missing something obvious? No, it just requires some tweeking..... > joe lang Good luck, -chuck From sms at 2BSD.COM Tue Jun 18 13:11:15 2002 From: sms at 2BSD.COM (Steven M. Schultz) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 20:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [pups] bsd2.11 kernel compile Message-ID: <200206180311.g5I3BF925792@moe.2bsd.com> Hi! > From: "Chuck Dickman" I see you beat me to the answer ;) > During the compile 'size' outputs a list of the sizes of the > overlays. Look at the output. For mine.... > > > How do I figure out which overlay (or base) is the problem? > > The base must be less than 7 8k pages or 57344(decimal) bytes. > Each overlay must be less than 8k bytes or 8192(decimal). > The network code is not overlayed, so you have 8 pages or the > full 64k. And you use "size" on the .o files to see how much each object file contributes to an overlay. With the exception of a few .o files which *must* be in the base segment (and these are identified in the Makefile) anything can go anywhere it will fit. The overlay switching is extremely efficient so don't worry about the 'affinity' of modules too much. Oh, it should be mentioned that it is not legal to have an empty (0 length) overlay except at the end - i.e. you can't have overlay 3 be 0 bytes if overlay 4 or higher has nonzero size. > To make it work, just get the sizes below the limits. The > optimal arrangement would be placing the code in such that > the overlay changes were minimized. So... move your system > disk drivers into base and change the configuration to > remove any hardware you don't actually have. With the exception of perhaps the tty driver for the specific serial devices present on the system it's not worth trying to pack things "optimally". The overhead of overlays is inhererent in the function prologue and epilogue - the only extra overhead of actually switching overlays is stuffing ~two words or so into the MMU registers. DO NOT remove anything from the actual OV lines in the makefile - just make sure you define/configure devices as not being present in the config file (by saying you have 0 of them). Then the .o files do not take up any space and can be segregated into unused overlays at the end (OV9 or 10 or so). Good Luck! Steven Schultz sms at 2bsd.com From jkunz at unixag-kl.fh-kl.de Tue Jun 18 17:55:12 2002 From: jkunz at unixag-kl.fh-kl.de (Jochen Kunz) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 09:55:12 +0200 Subject: [pups] bsd2.11 kernel compile In-Reply-To: <3D0E81C0.9046BF5D@bellsouth.net>; from langj@bellsouth.net on Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 02:41:36 CEST References: <3D0E81C0.9046BF5D@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <20020618095512.I163999@MissSophie.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de> On 2002.06.18 02:41 joseph lang wrote: > How do I figure out which overlay (or base) is the problem? Add this to your Makefile and you can "make" a list of the individual overlay sizes: sizes: sizes.awk @echo -n "BASE " ; size ${BASE} | awk -f sizes.awk @echo -n "OV1 " ; size ${OV1} | awk -f sizes.awk @echo -n "OV2 " ; size ${OV2} | awk -f sizes.awk @echo -n "OV3 " ; size ${OV3} | awk -f sizes.awk @echo -n "OV4 " ; size ${OV4} | awk -f sizes.awk @echo -n "OV5 " ; size ${OV5} | awk -f sizes.awk @echo -n "OV6 " ; size ${OV6} | awk -f sizes.awk @echo -n "OV7 " ; size ${OV7} | awk -f sizes.awk @echo -n "OV8 " ; size ${OV8} | awk -f sizes.awk @echo -n "OV9 " ; size ${OV9} | awk -f sizes.awk sizeb: FRC size ${BASE} size1: FRC size ${OV1} size2: FRC size ${OV2} size3: FRC size ${OV3} size4: FRC size ${OV4} size5: FRC size ${OV5} size6: FRC size ${OV6} size7: FRC size ${OV7} size8: FRC size ${OV8} size9: FRC size ${OV9} sizes.awk: FRC echo 'BEGIN {sum=0' > sizes.awk echo 'sum2=0' >> sizes.awk echo 'sum3=0}' >> sizes.awk echo '/^[0-9]/ {sum=sum+$$1' >> sizes.awk echo 'sum2=sum2+$$1+$$2' >> sizes.awk echo 'sum3=sum3+$$4}' >> sizes.awk echo 'END {print "text: "sum " text+data: " sum2 " dec: " sum3}' >> sizes.awk -- tschüß, Jochen Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/ From langj at bellsouth.net Wed Jun 19 10:42:00 2002 From: langj at bellsouth.net (joseph lang) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 20:42:00 -0400 Subject: [pups] bsd2.11 kernel compile References: <3D0E81C0.9046BF5D@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <3D0FD358.5AE5568F@bellsouth.net> Thank you for your quick and accurate answers. My "junk-box" 11 (jb11.notms.net) is happy and on my local network. For those of you who may be interested the system is built entirely from scrap.. The CPU is from a Decserver 550. It's a j11 (18mhz.) with 1.5 meg of ram. and pdp11/53 proms. I bought the RQDX3 on E-bay. The disk drive was from My ever decreasing pile of MFM drives (rd32) The chassis is home built. (stop laughing it looks pretty good ;-) The power supply is an open frame switcher from a local electronics scrap dealer. I wire-wrapped the power-on reset and line time clock generator circuits. The boards are in a H-9270 (Q-18) backplane with additional lines wrapped to make it Q-22. It sounds like a real kludge! Anybody got a spare BA23? ;-) I loaded the root filesystem with vtserver. Thanks Warren! VTC and vtserver were used to load /usr. I had to strip a lot of stuff from /usr to get it to fit on a single drive. (games doc ingres and man pages) # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ra0a 9842 2952 6890 30% / /dev/ra0c 26084 14966 11118 57% /usr As soon as I build a copy of Chuck Dickman's ATA board I'll load up everything. joe lang From MAILER-DAEMON16850 at google.com Sat Jun 22 16:54:36 2002 From: MAILER-DAEMON16850 at google.com (Farmgirl28237) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 10:54:36 +0400 Subject: [pups] Real ZOO web site, welcome! ID Message-ID: <200206220651.g5M6pSD05928@minnie.tuhs.org> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From MAILER-DAEMON4874 at google.com Sat Jun 22 16:54:40 2002 From: MAILER-DAEMON4874 at google.com (Farmgirl10326) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 10:54:40 +0400 Subject: [pups] Real ZOO web site, welcome! ID Message-ID: <200206220651.g5M6pXD05933@minnie.tuhs.org> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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ID In-Reply-To: from Dave Horsfall at "Jun 25, 2002 01:03:54 pm" Message-ID: <200206250723.g5P7NuW40061@minnie.tuhs.org> In article by Dave Horsfall: > On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, Randy Merkel wrote: > > Golly, I think we have a spammer ;) > Either he/she/it took the trouble to subscribe (few do), or the list > is wide open; if the latter, expect more crap. Open no more, and I have to approve subscriptions too :-) Warren From szigi at ik.bme.hu Tue Jun 4 21:53:50 2002 From: szigi at ik.bme.hu (Szigeti Szabolcs) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 13:53:50 +0200 Subject: [TUHS] Re: Porting Unix v6 to i386 Message-ID: <006a01c20bbe$7e5c86c0$26f34298@magosix> Hi folks! I've just joined your mailing list, and while looking at the archives, i saw this discussion on porting V6 to Intel. Well, back in '92, in a university scinence students' competition, I ported v6 to intel286 in protected mode. (I got second place, the winner was a 3D animation prog, which is more spectacular, than a # prompt :-) I used Borland C to compile, with some extra mungling the assembly code ( i can't remember why). The hard part was to understand the protected mode, and to write the low level stuff. Other things, like filesystem, etc. compiled with hardly any modification. (Had to change =+ to =+, introduce long insted of int[2], etc.). It has floppy, ide, kbd, parallel, serial and vga drivers. It got to full multiuser operation, but there are bugs and stupid codings certainly. The C compiler, nroff, and some other parts were not ported. (Yes, I used Borland C to compile the programs, and a tool to convert it to a.out :-) I don't know if i can now legally give out parts of the original code, if anyone wants to experiment with it (some parts are pretty ugly, because i intedned to rewrite it, but never did, and the parts of the comments are in Hungarian), drop me an email (though i'm now doing my MBA thesis, so might not answer immediatey). If there is interest, I can summarize my experiences. I've not looked it since several years, so i might not remember every detail, but there are some interesting point, and it was great fun to do. Regards, Szabolcs Szigeti From wkt at minnie.tuhs.org Wed Jun 5 09:34:50 2002 From: wkt at minnie.tuhs.org (Warren Toomey) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 09:34:50 +1000 (EST) Subject: [TUHS] Re: Porting Unix v6 to i386 In-Reply-To: <006a01c20bbe$7e5c86c0$26f34298@magosix> from Szigeti Szabolcs at "Jun 4, 2002 01:53:50 pm" Message-ID: <200206042334.g54NYoN86308@minnie.tuhs.org> In article by Szigeti Szabolcs: > I don't know if i can now legally give out parts of the original code, if > anyone wants to experiment with it (some parts are pretty ugly, because i > intedned to rewrite it, but never did, and the parts of the comments are in > Hungarian), drop me an email (though i'm now doing my MBA thesis, so might > not answer immediatey). If there is interest, I can summarize my > experiences. Hi, yes it's now legal to distribute your code, as Caldera's license allows for distribution of changes, see http://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Caldera-license.pdf I'm the guy who runs the Unix Archive, so I'd be very happy to take a copy of your work and add it to the archive. Cheers, Warren From johnzulu at yahoo.com Wed Jun 5 21:54:12 2002 From: johnzulu at yahoo.com (John Chung) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 04:54:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TUHS] Re: Porting Unix v6 to i386 In-Reply-To: <200206050222.g552MHm88208@minnie.tuhs.org> Message-ID: <20020605115412.51082.qmail@web12803.mail.yahoo.com> Where can I obtain the program nowadays? It is going to be fun playing it using my x86 machine. :) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From iking at microsoft.com Thu Jun 6 04:49:15 2002 From: iking at microsoft.com (Ian King) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 11:49:15 -0700 Subject: [TUHS] Re: Porting Unix v6 to i386 Message-ID: <8D25F244B8274141B5D313CA4823F39C04147F06@red-msg-06.redmond.corp.microsoft.com> I think this would be a great addition to the archive! I'm glad I didn't throw out that old 286 motherboard yet. :-) -- Ian -----Original Message----- From: Warren Toomey [mailto:wkt at minnie.tuhs.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 4:35 PM To: Szigeti Szabolcs Cc: tuhs at minnie.tuhs.org Subject: Re: [TUHS] Re: Porting Unix v6 to i386 In article by Szigeti Szabolcs: > I don't know if i can now legally give out parts of the original code, > if anyone wants to experiment with it (some parts are pretty ugly, > because i intedned to rewrite it, but never did, and the parts of the > comments are in Hungarian), drop me an email (though i'm now doing my > MBA thesis, so might not answer immediatey). If there is interest, I > can summarize my experiences. Hi, yes it's now legal to distribute your code, as Caldera's license allows for distribution of changes, see http://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Caldera-license.pdf I'm the guy who runs the Unix Archive, so I'd be very happy to take a copy of your work and add it to the archive. Cheers, Warren _______________________________________________ TUHS mailing list TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs From szigi at ik.bme.hu Thu Jun 6 17:07:35 2002 From: szigi at ik.bme.hu (Szigeti Szabolcs) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 09:07:35 +0200 Subject: [TUHS] Re: Porting Unix v6 to i386 References: <8D25F244B8274141B5D313CA4823F39C04147F06@red-msg-06.redmond.corp.microsoft.com> Message-ID: <002c01c20d28$d5f1c600$26f34298@magosix> > I think this would be a great addition to the archive! I'm glad I > didn't throw out that old 286 motherboard yet. :-) -- Ian Hi, I've sent the stuff to Warren, so it should get to the archives. Mind you, it needs some hacking to get it running, but it isn't impossible. Cheers, Szabolcs From wkt at minnie.tuhs.org Thu Jun 6 20:20:16 2002 From: wkt at minnie.tuhs.org (Warren Toomey) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 20:20:16 +1000 (EST) Subject: [TUHS] Re: Porting Unix v6 to i386 In-Reply-To: <002c01c20d28$d5f1c600$26f34298@magosix> from Szigeti Szabolcs at "Jun 6, 2002 09:07:35 am" Message-ID: <200206061020.g56AKH309734@minnie.tuhs.org> In article by Szigeti Szabolcs: > I've sent the stuff to Warren, so it should get to the archives. Mind you, > it needs some hacking to get it running, but it isn't impossible. > Cheers, > Szabolcs I'll upload it soon. Meanwhile, instead of a DOS C compiler, people should be able Bruce Evans' bcc or C86 as the compiler, which would eventually allow the system to compile itself. [ Um, maybe once V7 gets ported, as I'd bet these compilers will require the stdio library. ] Just a thought. Warren From mike at ducky.net Fri Jun 7 03:02:57 2002 From: mike at ducky.net (Mike Haertel) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 10:02:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TUHS] Re: Porting Unix v6 to i386 Message-ID: <200206061702.g56H2v3b010851@ducky.net> >I'll upload it soon. Meanwhile, instead of a DOS C compiler, people >should be able Bruce Evans' bcc or C86 as the compiler, which would >eventually allow the system to compile itself. The source code to the Watcom compilers has also finally been released. From peter.jeremy at alcatel.com.au Wed Jun 12 08:31:16 2002 From: peter.jeremy at alcatel.com.au (Peter Jeremy) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 08:31:16 +1000 Subject: [TUHS] Re: Porting Unix v6 to i386 In-Reply-To: <200206061702.g56H2v3b010851@ducky.net>; from mike@ducky.net on Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 10:02:57AM -0700 References: <200206061702.g56H2v3b010851@ducky.net> Message-ID: <20020612083116.J680@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> On 2002-Jun-06 10:02:57 -0700, Mike Haertel wrote: >The source code to the Watcom compilers has also finally >been released. Where? http://www.openwatcom.com/ is still only talking about the binary patch kit. The "current status" indicates (mid-May) "Sybase has decided on an Open Source License and is currently awaiting OSI approval". Peter From mike at ducky.net Wed Jun 12 08:52:26 2002 From: mike at ducky.net (Mike Haertel) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 15:52:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TUHS] Re: Porting Unix v6 to i386 In-Reply-To: <20020612083116.J680@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> Message-ID: <200206112252.g5BMqQsL030737@ducky.net> >On 2002-Jun-06 10:02:57 -0700, Mike Haertel wrote: >>The source code to the Watcom compilers has also finally >>been released. > >Where? http://www.openwatcom.com/ is still only talking about the >binary patch kit. Argh. I already replied to this privately before noticing it had been sent to the list. I sent Peter a longer reply, but the quick version is that http://www.openwatcom.org/download_lic.html will get you to the source code. Although their compiler will generate 8086 code, it seems reasonably unlikely that the compiler itself can be made to fit on an 8086. From drwho8 at worldnet.att.net Thu Jun 20 11:20:54 2002 From: drwho8 at worldnet.att.net (Gregg C Levine) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 21:20:54 -0400 Subject: [TUHS] Simh and networking, and any of the available 2.11BSD collections Message-ID: <000901c217f8$bcfb28a0$a8bc580c@who> Hello from Gregg C Levine I've just joined this list, so bear with me. I am developing applications that will be using the protcols covered in DECnet to access a running PDP-11 system. Actually it is running, but its a SimH program posing as a PDP-11/23. I have downloaded the boot images, especially the 2.11BSD system that is available, and booted it under the SimH simulator. Any suggestions as to how I take this one step further? This is running on both Windows, and Linux. But the DECnet programs were built on Slackware Linux. Gregg C Levine drwho8 at worldnet.att.net "How many floors does this TARDIS of yours have, anyway?" From drwho8 at worldnet.att.net Tue Jun 25 22:22:48 2002 From: drwho8 at worldnet.att.net (Gregg C Levine) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 08:22:48 -0400 Subject: [TUHS] FW: Missing pack from the UnixV6 distros based at the TUH site Message-ID: <000d01c21c43$0583b760$6260580c@who> Hello from Gregg C Levine normally with Jedi Knight Computers Forwarded from a posting on news:alt.sys.pdp-11 that I made. Rather then repost the entire message in perpetuity I decided to forward the whole business to this list. As I am still deciding the best way to make use of the whole file tree, without an actual machine living here, I decided to download everything to this one, and then wait. Gregg C Levine drwho8 at att.net "How many floors does this TARDIS of yours have, anyway?" "Gregg C Levine" wrote in message news:<20020625121449.XOEM20423.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net at who>... > Hello from Gregg C Levine > Has anyone actually found this to happen? The TUH ftp site, has on it, a > number of actual distributions for UNIX for the PDP-11. One of them was > assembled by Tim Shoppa from a discarded machine. They were > subsequently uploaded to that site. However on of the packs is missing. > It is this one, "xxdp_with_1123.rl02: XXDP+ on RL02 pack, bootable." > That is from the README file associated with the entire directory. > Everything else is there, that one is not. What did happen to it, I wonder. > Gregg C Levine drwho8 at att.net > > From wkt at minnie.tuhs.org Wed Jun 26 08:47:08 2002 From: wkt at minnie.tuhs.org (Warren Toomey) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 08:47:08 +1000 (EST) Subject: [TUHS] FW: Missing pack from the UnixV6 distros based at the TUH site In-Reply-To: <000d01c21c43$0583b760$6260580c@who> from Gregg C Levine at "Jun 25, 2002 08:22:48 am" Message-ID: <200206252247.g5PMl8t48206@minnie.tuhs.org> In article by Gregg C Levine: > > It is this one, "xxdp_with_1123.rl02: XXDP+ on RL02 pack, bootable." > > That is from the README file associated with the entire directory. > > Everything else is there, that one is not. What did happen to it, I > wonder. > > Gregg C Levine drwho8 at att.net I believe XXDP is still owned by Mentec, and hasn't been released under a suitable license for public distribution. I'd be happy to be proven wrong, though! Warren From drwho8 at worldnet.att.net Wed Jun 26 09:21:32 2002 From: drwho8 at worldnet.att.net (Gregg C Levine) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 19:21:32 -0400 Subject: [TUHS] FW: Missing pack from the UnixV6 distros based at the TUH site References: <200206252247.g5PMl8t48206@minnie.tuhs.org> Message-ID: <000a01c21c9f$0b7e4e80$2c60580c@who> Hello from Gregg C Levine normallt with Jedi Knight Computers Very good then. When you, or someone else, have the time, can the README file be updated? Other wise, I have found the entire site, both WWW, and FTP, to be a gold mine of usual data, and information. Especially data. Gregg C Levine drwho8 at worldnet.att.net "How many floors does this TARDIS of yours have, anyway?" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Toomey" To: "Gregg C Levine" Cc: "tuhs@ minnie.tuhs.org" Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [TUHS] FW: Missing pack from the UnixV6 distros based at the TUH site > In article by Gregg C Levine: > > > It is this one, "xxdp_with_1123.rl02: XXDP+ on RL02 pack, bootable." > > > That is from the README file associated with the entire directory. > > > Everything else is there, that one is not. What did happen to it, I > > wonder. > > > Gregg C Levine drwho8 at att.net > > I believe XXDP is still owned by Mentec, and hasn't been released under > a suitable license for public distribution. I'd be happy to be proven > wrong, though! > > Warren > _______________________________________________ > TUHS mailing list > TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org > http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs > From wkt at minnie.tuhs.org Wed Jun 26 11:09:02 2002 From: wkt at minnie.tuhs.org (Warren Toomey) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 11:09:02 +1000 (EST) Subject: [TUHS] FW: Missing pack from the UnixV6 distros based at the TUH site In-Reply-To: <000a01c21c9f$0b7e4e80$2c60580c@who> from Gregg C Levine at "Jun 25, 2002 07:21:32 pm" Message-ID: <200206260109.g5Q193R49544@minnie.tuhs.org> In article by Gregg C Levine: [xxdp is copyright] > Very good then. When you, or someone else, have the time, can the README > file be updated? Other wise, I have found the entire site, both WWW, and > FTP, to be a gold mine of usual data, and information. Especially data. Done! Warren From drwho8 at worldnet.att.net Sun Jun 30 02:27:47 2002 From: drwho8 at worldnet.att.net (Gregg C Levine) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 12:27:47 -0400 Subject: [TUHS] The Tim Shoppa distribution of V6 Message-ID: <000501c21f89$ee71a100$28ba580c@who> Hello again from Gregg C Levine On the FTP site, is a a V6 distribution contributed by Tim Shoppa. It is created for the PDP-11/23, and there is a good readme.txt file that explains the different images, and how they got there. However, has anyone actually gotten the distribution to boot, using a version of Simh? A text file of commands to be fed to the Simh program would be a great help. I have mine, built using the MingW compiler, and this is version 2.9-10. Also, if anyone has gotten it to boot on real hardware, that would a be a great plus. Gregg C Levine drwho8 at worldnet.att.net "How many floors does this TARDIS of yours have, anyway?"