the pinout is the same as the infamous AT style pinout for 9 pin D-subs 1 - ? (may be shield ground) 2 - RxD 3 - TxD 4 - DTR 5 - SG (ground) 6 - DSR 7 - RTS 8 - CTS 9 - ? (may be shield ground) any questions? -- -Bruce "Just half a turn and there's your worm!" -Bob Bet Bait Box