great quote about the "C" language
ggs at ulysses.UUCP
ggs at ulysses.UUCP
Wed Dec 7 13:03:19 AEST 1983
With regard to the following:
>If you don't think minimizing the number of reserved words is a good idea,
>try Lisp. At 1000 or more reserved words (the oblist), it's not always
>easy to avoid stepping on things, and the results of a collision are usually
>quite mysterious.
Foul! There are very few reserved words in Lisp. The conflicts with the
oblist are no worse that function name conflicts in the C library. The only
cases that I can think of where strange things happen are when you re-bind
some of the atoms that have special significance to the interpretor (input
or output radix, for example). You can redefine a procedure and cause
a system function to break, but you can also do the same thing to a function
in the C library. The conflicts are an attribute of the large size of the
support library, not of the language.
>As for the compiler "probably" doing the right thing, I don't think there's
>*any* existing portable language in which the compiler can be guaranteed to
>give consistent results - 36 bits is different from 32, no matter how you try
>to disguise it...
Lisp is just such a language. It allows you to deal with abstract objects
that have little relation to the underlying architecture. I wrote a fairly
large language interpretor in Lisp in 1969. It ran under Lisp 1.6 on a
PDP-10. I was able to port it to Franz Lisp on a VAX in 1983 with about
one day's effort. The changes were to eliminate some non-standard function
references that I shouldn't have used in the first place. The resulting
code would run on the original PDP-10 system with only a few lines of changes.
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