<> this is more a procedural bug than a code bug... Our Usenet admin reports that they may (are not allowed) not "make rn public". We are to be installing exptools, and will get rn IF it is part of exptools. Is this likely? Or is there a competition (rn vs vnews vs...)? -art ...ihnp4!hou2h!ajw 201/834-1142 HO1B612