[obsolete but impressive net bug feeder] > random()&08? Is this some new kind of octal digit? "The digits 8 and 9 have octal value 10 and 11 respectively." {K&R ppg 180 sec 2.4.1} Don't ask me I just work here. *** ACE IS IN WITH OUR MESS *** -- Mark Roddy Net working, Just reading the news. (harvard!talcott!panda!enmasse!mroddy)