oops. When I upgraded from smail v2.3 to v2.5, I must have accidentally munged the permissions on the logfile (/usr/spool/uucp/mail.log). Apparently, that file needs to be world writable for outgoing mail to be logged. Everything works now. Patrick Wolfe Patrick.Wolfe at kailand.kai.com -or- kailand!Patrick.Wolfe