The best clear for VAX/VMS is the following since it is VERY fast (no image activation), assuming you have a VT100 or better. $ CLEAR :== "WRITE SYS$OUTPUT ""<ESC>[24;1H<ESC>[2J""" Replace <ESC>'s with the real thing. A similar CLEAR can be done for VT52's as well. "There's a madness to my method." Mike Moroney ..decwrl!rhea!jon!moroney