How to use kermit and xmodem

[sardella at tdw254.ed.ray.com]

How do you use kermit with the internal modem on the 3b1?  I have tried
using kermit to log into another computer and I could not get that to run
and I also tried using kermit by setting the line to /dev/ph0 and speed to 
speed to 1200.


Also I have the source to xmodem am I wondering how would get that to work with
the phone manager or without it.