Amen to that! For my first year in 3b1-land, I had to glean what I could from comp.sys.att, since unix-pc wasn't a "recognized" newsgroup. I vote for comp.sys.unix-pc, or perhaps comp.sys.3b1 (shorter). -- Chuck Bacon - crtb at helix.nih.gov - 301-496-4823 "After all, computers have rights too!" - Ernst Bacon, 1898-1990