Hi, this should be a simple question, but I just can't figure it out. There's this "winat()" routine on the SGI 3000's but not on the 4D's. I'm wondering if there's another way of getting the same information, i.e. getting the window gid under your cursor. Thanks. -Ching -email or post -ching-tai at uiuc.edu -ctai at ncsa.uiuc.edu