sunos 4.0.3 documentation refers to the 'asf' option of the mt command. this is an undocumented option, i think. it seems to act like "mt fsf"... i'm not sure if there is a difference. any ideas? Steve Elias eli at spdcc.com, eli at chipcom.com [mail to chipcom.chipcom.com bounces!] voice mail: 617 859 1389 work phone: 617 890 6844