flames are on!

Fri Sep 30 13:13:04 AEST 1988

To replay to "Mr. Turner's" remarks, I thought that I would included his entire
article. Since "Mr. Turner" refused, in his article, to tell the real truth,
I have also included a record of his activties on alphacm!

The following is an exact copy of his article, as it arrivced:

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From: scotty at l5comp.UUCP (Scott Turner)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix,comp.unix.microport,comp.unix.questions,comp.sources.alt
Subject: Re: TeX has arrived
Summary: A real shock alright.
Keywords: TeX XBBS alphacm
Message-ID: <435 at l5comp.UUCP>
Date: 26 Sep 88 12:26:10 GMT
References: <1908 at turnkey.TCC.COM>
Reply-To: scotty at l5comp.UUCP (Scott Turner)
Organization: L5 Computing, Edmonds, WA
Lines: 22
Xref: murph2 comp.unix.xenix:2278 comp.unix.microport:923 comp.unix.questions:5799 comp.sources.alt:20

In article <1908 at turnkey.TCC.COM> sandy at turnkey.TCC.COM (Sanford 'Sandy' Zelkovitz) writes:
>Sanford <sandy> Zelkovitz    XBBS (alphacm)  714-898-8634
>
>P.S. TeX takes MANY megabytes, so be ready for a shock!

The shock is that even though you get 90 minutes a day and can download as
soon as you sign up, you only get 500K of downloads per day.

And if the TeX is anything like the X10R4 things are even worse. X10R4 is
cut up into 350,000 byte chunks, so you can only grab 350,000 bytes a day!

Last time I looked on uunet TeX was REAL big, might take well into 2 months
to download at 350,000 bytes a day.

Anyone else out there have X10R4 sources online? (The first 350,000 bytes
were REAL nice, I don't think I can wait 10 days :)

Scott Turner
scotty at l5comp -or- uunet!l5comp!scotty

"Ve hafe vays to make you talk! 350,000 bytes per day aught to sofen you
up!"

----------------------- continuation of my comments -----------------------

"Mr. Turner" knows VERY well that the 500K daily limit is there to promote
uploads to the system. Since he doesn't seem to like to share with others,
that is all he gets! If he were to upload mere 200K, that amount would have
been deducted from what he downloads.

As he knows quit well, there is NO limit on what can be requested via
uucp. He even has the NERVE to ask others if they have X10R4! I really
don't know why he has done that since he requested all of the files via
uucp from me! So that he doesn't deny this, the following is a
copy of my uucp log:

********** l5comp **********
uucp l5comp  (9/26-22:32:25,2451,0) OK (startup)
uucp l5comp  (9/26-22:34:03,2451,0) REMOTE REQUESTED (alphacm!/user/bbsfiles/big/x10.4/xw104.tar.Z-b --> l5comp!/usr/spool/uucppublic (root))
uucp l5comp  (9/26-23:04:24,2451,1) REMOTE REQUESTED (alphacm!/user/bbsfiles/big/x10.4/xw104.tar.Z-c --> l5comp!/usr/spool/uucppublic (root))
uucp l5comp  (9/26-23:31:50,2451,2) REMOTE REQUESTED (alphacm!/user/bbsfiles/big/x10.4/xw104.tar.Z-d --> l5comp!/usr/spool/uucppublic (root))
********** l5comp **********
uucp l5comp  (9/27-0:52:31,2618,0) OK (startup)
uucp l5comp  (9/27-0:52:33,2618,0) REMOTE REQUESTED (alphacm!/user/bbsfiles/big/x10.4/xw104.tar.Z-f --> l5comp!/usr/spool/uucppublic (root))
uucp l5comp  (9/27-1:21:07,2618,1) REMOTE REQUESTED (alphacm!/user/bbsfiles/big/x10.4/xw104.tar.Z-g --> l5comp!/usr/spool/uucppublic (root))
uucp l5comp  (9/27-1:47:52,2618,2) REMOTE REQUESTED (alphacm!/user/bbsfiles/big/x10.4/xw104.tar.Z-h --> l5comp!/usr/spool/uucppublic (root))
uucp l5comp  (9/27-2:15:24,2618,3) REMOTE REQUESTED (alphacm!/user/bbsfiles/big/x10.4/xw104.tar.Z-i --> l5comp!/usr/spool/uucppublic (root))
uucp l5comp  (9/27-2:42:53,2618,4) REMOTE REQUESTED (alphacm!/user/bbsfiles/big/x10.4/xw104.tar.Z-j --> l5comp!/usr/spool/uucppublic (root))
uucp l5comp  (9/27-3:11:19,2618,5) REMOTE REQUESTED (alphacm!/user/bbsfiles/big/x10.4/xw104.tar.Z-k --> l5comp!/usr/spool/uucppublic (root))
uucp l5comp  (9/27-3:38:28,2618,6) REMOTE REQUESTED (alphacm!/user/bbsfiles/big/x10.4/xw104.tar.Z-l --> l5comp!/usr/spool/uucppublic (root))
root l5comp  (9/27-3:45:32,2618,7) CAUGHT (SIGNAL 1)
uucp l5comp  (9/27-4:34:32,2871,0) OK (startup)
uucp l5comp  (9/27-4:34:35,2871,0) REMOTE REQUESTED (alphacm!/user/bbsfiles/big/x10.4/xw104.tar.Z-l --> l5comp!/usr/spool/uucppublic (root))
uucp l5comp  (9/27-5:05:19,2871,1) REMOTE REQUESTED (alphacm!/user/bbsfiles/big/x10.4/xw104.tar.Z-m --> l5comp!/usr/spool/uucppublic (root))
uucp l5comp  (9/27-5:32:30,2871,2) REMOTE REQUESTED (alphacm!/user/bbsfiles/big/x10.4/xw104.tar.Z-n --> l5comp!/usr/spool/uucppublic (root))
uucp l5comp  (9/27-5:59:14,2871,3) REMOTE REQUESTED (alphacm!/user/bbsfiles/big/x10.4/xw104.tar.Z-o --> l5comp!/usr/spool/uucppublic (root))
uucp l5comp  (9/27-6:12:44,2871,4) OK (conversation complete tty1A 5894)

I really wish I knew why he would post such a message. The saddest part of
all is that he didn't even say "thank-you" for making this available.
I will, at least,  say  that you are welcome!

Sanford <sandy> Zelkovitz    XBBS  714-898-8634