Permission Question
    Jonathan I. Kamens 
    jik at athena.mit.edu
       
    Mon Mar 11 10:06:32 AEST 1991
    
    
  
In article <1991Mar9.212943.1961 at casbah.acns.nwu.edu>, navarra at casbah.acns.nwu.edu (John Navarra) writes:
|>  I am not a member of staff but I wanted to see if I could do the following:
|> 
|>  cp /bin/sh /somedir/sh
|>  chmod g+s /sh
|>  ls -las | grep sh
|>  
|>  224 -rwx--x--x   1 navarra  staff     106496 Mar  9 13:18 sh
|> 
|>  AS you see I was not able to set this bit. I was wondering if you actually
|>  have to be a member of the group to set its bit? Is this true on all Unix
|>  systems?
  To allow a user to make a binary setgid to a group of which he is not a
member would be a gaping security hole, allowing any user to violate the
entire group security mechanism.  It should be clear why this is so; if I'm
not a member of a group but I can make a program setgid to that group, then I
can write a program to do anything I want that requires that group's access
rights, and then make it setgid to that group and run it.
  So yes, you actually have to be a member of a group to make something setgid
to that group.
  By the way, why the "na" distribution?
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