Sizes of various editors (was Re: Textedit wars (was vi vs emacs in a student environment))

[Ralph Hyre]

>In article <8196 at brl-smoke.ARPA> gwyn at brl.arpa (Doug Gwyn (VLD/VMB) <gwyn>) writes:
>|I actually do use "vi" on my Sun, until I get "sam" running.  (The
>|SunTools text editor is a joke.)
....
>Actually, I use textedit a lot. It has several things going for it.
>The bigest one is:
>(SunOS 4.0):
>-rwxr-xr-x  1 root        32768 Apr  9 04:49 /usr/bin/textedit
>(SunOS 3.4.2):
>-rwxr-xr-x  3 barnett    991232 Feb 29 11:48 /usr/local/bin/emacs
>-rwxrwxr-x  1 barnett    581632 Aug 31  1987 /usr/local/bin/emacstool

>Yes, size. emacs+emacstool (SUnOS 3.4) is 48 TIMES larger than
>textedit (SunOS 4.0). (yes, emacstool will shrink under 4.0. No, don't
>have the numbers yet).
Why cloud the issue by posting meaningless numbers?

Those windowing libraries still might get loaded under 4.0, but
chances are they're already loaded if you're using the window
system.

In SunOS 3.5 (more-or-less, some binaries are as old as 3.0)

TEXTEDIT
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root      753664 Nov 10  1987 /usr/bin/textedit*
text	data	bss	dec	hex
704512	32768	24860	762140	ba11c

GNU EMACS
-rwxr-xr-x  1 9902      835584 Dec 15  1987 /usr/wpe/bin/gemacs*
text	data	bss	dec	hex
516096	237568	0	753664	b8000

Unix EMACS (written here by Gosling, licensed to Unipress now I suppose)
 [2 installations]
-rwxr-xr-x  1 cmu       425984 Dec 23  1986 /usr/cs/bin/emacs*
text	data	bss	dec	hex
319488	16384	104800	440672	6b960

-rwxr-xr-x  1 root      245760 Jun 19 17:47 /usr/cs/bin/emacs*
text	data	bss	dec	hex
196608	8192	107888	312688	4c570

So, it really depends on what tradeoffs you're willing to make to accomdate
your preferences.  Also depends on what other people on your system are
using, since the text segment can be shared on many systems, reducing
swapping and paging.

Since these paramters vary wildly from person to person and system to
system, why should anyone expect anyone else to agree?  Nobody wins
OS/Processor/Editor wars anymore.
-- 
					- Ralph W. Hyre, Jr.

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