AT&T vs. CSS (PC/Tools)
Paul S. R. Chisholm
psc at lznv.ATT.COM
Wed Jun 22 15:04:49 AEST 1988
In article <308 at marob.MASA.COM>, samperi at marob.MASA.COM (Dominick Samperi) writes:
> . . . the article said that AT&T won a settlement against CSS
> because CSS "used ideas from UNIX." Source code copying may not have been
> the issue.
It's my understanding that source license and copyright violations were
the problem, not "look and feel". Ideas can't be copywritten. They
*can* be patented. (Trivia question: what idea from the early T&R
UNIX(R) operating system *was* patented? Answer below.)
> The question is: if I develop tools that have the same (or more)
> functionality as some of the standard UNIX tools (ls, rm, cpio, tar, etc.),
> then can I use the same program names?
I can't think of any objection. Those names can't be copywritten,
either. They could have been trademarked, but they weren't. (I can
see it all now: "grep is a trademark of AT&T":-)
> And if not, can I use the word "UNIX" in describing the functionality
> of the tools?
UNIX is a registered trademark of AT&T. I don't know exactly what
restrictions that puts on you. (AT&T's official policy is that the
word "UNIX" is an adjective, so rather than "UNIX-like", if you use the
"U" word, you should say "UNIX system-like". No, repeat, no comment.)
> Does MKS have a license from AT&T?
Not so far as I know. What's to license? The look and feel of grep?
So far as I know, MKS didn't port UNIX system code; they reimplemented
the tools. AT&T officially neither approves or disapproves of MKS's
work. (Some of us sure do appreciate it, though.)
-Paul S. R. Chisholm, {ihnp4,cbosgd,allegra,rutgers}!mtune!lznv!psc
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I'm not a member of the bar; for legal advice, consult a lawyer.
AT&T was awarded a patent for Dennis Ritchie's invention of the set
user ID and set group ID bits.
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