Out of curriosity, why in the world does bcopy have the source and destination backwards from everything else? Just to confuse people trying to learn how to use it? Alan M. Carroll "And then you say, carroll at s.cs.uiuc.edu We have the Moon, so now the Stars..." - YES CS Grad / U of Ill @ Urbana ...{ucbvax,pur-ee,convex}!s.cs.uiuc.edu!carroll