talkd processes never die
ccvj at lure.latrobe.edu.au
ccvj at lure.latrobe.edu.au
Thu May 16 12:09:40 AEST 1991
It just grows and grows!
Has anyone come across this before? Mips M-120, RISC/os 4.52, a
student machine (I say this only because I thought it was the students!)
I have a problem with talkd in that the processes never disappear.
Usually, I just go in and kill them, but today I found another aspect to it.
I don't know whether there is something with talk, file protections and
whether there is a separate problem with biff or RISCwindows (just
recently installed), but this is what happens.
-r-xr-xr-x 1 bin bin 163840 Jan 31 12:05 /bsd43/bin/talk
crwx------ 1 ccvj cc 15, 4 May 16 11:29 /dev/ttyq4
# who
root tty0 May 6 17:21 1:59 29384 (console == tty0)
ccvj ttyq4 May 10 13:37 0:12 4694
csixw ttyq1 May 15 11:42 1:38 21326
root ttyq3 May 15 16:40 . 26078
...so I try kill -9 21326, because this user really is not on the system
anymore. Actually, I have an idle process killer which executes approx
every 15 minutes which is supposed to be doing this , but the process
does not actually exist, so root is mailed that info, I myself (not root)
have an xterm session going (ttyq4), and I keep getting advised that new mail
has arrived for root. Every time mail arrives (rather I am notified by biff)
another talkd process happens.
Before being notified of mail for root (ie first ps): 6 processes
root 26475 154 0 16:57:33 ? 0:00 talkd
root 26341 1 0 16:49:28 ? 0:00 talkd
root 26447 1 0 16:55:32 ? 0:00 talkd
root 26421 1 0 16:53:31 ? 0:00 talkd
root 26476 26475 0 16:57:33 ? 0:00 talkd
root 26387 1 0 16:51:30 ? 0:00 talkd
root 26523 26092 4 16:59:06 ttyq3 0:00 grep talk
After notification - 7 processes
root 26525 154 0 16:59:34 ? 0:00 talkd
root 26341 1 0 16:49:28 ? 0:00 talkd
root 26447 1 0 16:55:32 ? 0:00 talkd
root 26421 1 0 16:53:31 ? 0:00 talkd
root 26476 1 0 16:57:33 ? 0:00 talkd
root 26387 1 0 16:51:30 ? 0:00 talkd
root 26526 26525 0 16:59:34 ? 0:00 talkd
root 26528 26092 2 16:59:53 ttyq3 0:00 grep talk
Yet later later.. - 9 processes
root 26765 26092 4 17:15:05 ttyq3 0:00 grep talk
root 26609 1 0 17:01:35 ? 0:00 talkd
root 26647 1 0 17:05:37 ? 0:00 talkd
root 26341 1 0 16:49:28 ? 0:00 talkd
root 26447 1 0 16:55:32 ? 0:00 talkd
root 26421 1 0 16:53:31 ? 0:00 talkd
root 26476 1 0 16:57:33 ? 0:00 talkd
root 26387 1 0 16:51:30 ? 0:00 talkd
root 26628 1 0 17:03:36 ? 0:00 talkd
root 26526 1 0 16:59:34 ? 0:00 talkd
Of course, I have now stopped mail being sent by cron for the idle
process killer, but I really do not understand what is happening.
Could someone please explain the connection between biff and talk (if
there is one). There appear to be at least two separate problems:
1. the talkds never dying and 2. why my xterm is notified for root's
mail plus 3? the relationship between biff and talk.
If the answer is something obvious, please email me, as my ego is fairly
fragile at the moment. Thanks in advance!
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Vicki Jordan La Trobe University
ccvj at lure.latrobe.edu.au Bundoora, Vic 3083 Australia.
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