Unix vs Novell (HA..)
Daniel A. Graifer
dag at fciva.FRANKCAP.COM
Thu May 9 00:28:56 AEST 1991
In article <1991May07.193108.15803 at chinet.chi.il.us> les at chinet.chi.il.us (Leslie Mikesell) writes:
>In article <42078 at cup.portal.com> scarroll at cup.portal.com (Scott A Carroll) writes:
>> Well this should spur a debate. I need a little help convincing our more
>>then brain dead MIS people to STAY with Unix.
>
>[stuff deleted about supporting a DOS network from a unix host]
>I've had experience with AT&T's StarGroup product - can anyone comment
>on any of the other networking solutions or compare the features?
>
>Les Mikesell
> les at chinet.chi.il.us
We use PC-Interface from Locus Computing. I believe this is available for
all of the SYSV/386 unix ports, and is bundled in by some vendors. I've
even heard that it is considered a standard part of V.4 for '386. Their
literature says it's available for BSD, Motorola, MIPS, etc. It is
fairly old as DOS/Unix integration products go (at least 4 years) and has
stabilized well. We are running the older Version 2.8.7. The current
release (which our OEM hasn't ported yet) I believe is 3.1, which is supposed
to fix the few minor complaints we have. The product provides:
1) Connection via token ring, ethernet, or RS-232 serial, or a
combination (multiple simultaneous links are supported). I've
never tried the TR, but you should be able to connect a bunch
of PCs on an IBM token ring network across a bridge (cheaper
and faster than a router) to your ethernet and into you unix
host.
2) A connected unix host's file system appears as a DOS drive to
the DOS client. Unix filenames that are not legal DOS names
are translated to a legal, unique DOS equivelent. Unix
file permissions are observed, and record locking is supported.
3) A PRINTER command that permits all three LPTn devices to be
selectively trapped and spooled to any unix command or pipeline
on any connected host. The default (on SYSV hosts) is "lp".
Timeout and DOS program exit triggers are supported. (For
example we've used this to translate Epson control codes to
HP LaserJet codes for DOS programs that are too stupid to
know about printers with multiple character escape sequences)
This is a major departure from any PC based NFS client I've
seen.
4) A vt100 terminal emulator. You can open EMulation sessions
to multiple hosts, including hosts which are not "connected"
for file/print services.
5) An "ON hostname" DOS command that attempts to execute its
command line arguments as a unix command/pipeline on the
selected host. Input/Output redirection is supported, in
which the DOS CR/LF is translated to/from unix NL, and the
DOS ^Z EOF character is stripped/appended:
ON %DEFSYS% date +%%T | time >nul:
in my AUTOEXEC.BAT file sets my PC's time clock to match
my default system host's (which I store in dos environment
variable DEFSYS. The double %% is to escape a % past the
DOS batch file processor.)
6) ON commands can be terminated with an ampersand (&), which
runs them asynchronously (in the background). stdout and
stderr go to a spoolfile, which you can reconnect to DOS
stdin at any later time (before or after the process
completes). Hitting BREAK while an ON process is running
suspends the process and elicits a prompt to continue, abort
or background the process.
7) The newer versions support NDIS drivers, which in combination
with Hughes Lan Systems' ProLinc, should let you run Novell,
NFS/Telnet, and IBM PC-network (NETBUEI/DLC) simultaneously
on the same PC. (I haven't tried this, I will as soon as
our vendor ships the 3.0 upgrade). PCI runs over UDP/IP, so
there is no theoretical reason why it could not co-exist
with a PC NFS client or Telnet client (which is TCP/IP).
(There have already been numerous discussions in this group
of using packet drivers to integrate NFS/Telnet and Novell
using packet-drivers to route the TCP and IPX packets. You
should be able to route UDP and IBM's DLC packets as well)
8) It doesn't use a lot of DOS memory (<50K).
9) There API interface kit for developers, and it is compatible
with Locus' PC-Xsight X-terminal server.
10) It's relatively cheap (compared to Portable Netware). <$200
for each client, Usually a few $K for the host, but it depends
on the host. Be careful, their copy protection scheme on the
client side is nasty.
We have no connection with Locus Computing except as very satisfied
customers. I just wish Prime would hurry up with the next release!
Locus can be reached at (213)670-6500, (617)229-4980, or in England
at 0296-89911.
Dan
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Sr. Vice President, Financial Systems 7900 Westpark Dr. Suite A-130
(703)821-3244 McLean, VA 22102
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