BI & CI in Ultrix land
Alan's Home for Wayward Notes File.
alan at shodha.dec.com
Fri Jul 21 01:48:34 AEST 1989
In article <7373 at cbmvax.UUCP>, grr at cbmvax.UUCP (George Robbins) writes:
> Well, as a capacity planning excercise, I'm looking at either a 6X00
> or one of these newfangled 58XX systems and trying to come up with
> a realistic configuration.
>
> A few questions:
>
> 1) Are there any real problems with the BI serial controllers, either
> the DMB32 or DHB32? For example two of the current unibus controllers
> are seriously compromised: the DMF32 has hard-wired modem control that
> makes it all but useless with smart modems, and the DHU11 output speed
> is really limited to 9600 baud, with obvious consequences.
Even though I have a DMB32, I've never had the oppurtunity
to make much use of it. I've heard (but never verified)
that it will run at 19.2 Kb.
>
> 2) Are there thruput/performance limitations that would favor multiple
> DMB32's vs a DHB32 or the opposite? How large are the input fifos
> and are they shared between all lines?
See above.
>
> 3) Is anybody out there using CI attached disks on an Ultrix system?
> How does performance compare to Massbuss or BI attached drives?
I have 20 disks on the 8800 that I'm the system manager of.
12 are on an HSC70 and others spread across two KDB50's,
mostly because I didn't have enough requestors in the HSC.
For typical I/O usage, I'd say the performance is about
same. If you start doing lots of sequential I/O at the
same time, multiple KDB50's have an advantage because you
can easily saturate the CI adapter.
> Does Ultrix really get any benefit from the rather expensive CI
> hardware?
I believe it does. If you have multiple systems you can use
the CI as a network interface and share disks more easily. As
for cost, I calculated the cost per port once and did find the
HSC/CI more expensive (for 32 ports) than the KDB50's. I'm not
sure if took into account the extra expansion cabinets needed
for the additional KDB50's.
>
> 4) How about CI attached tape drives? The lack of direct attachment
> for TU78 class drives is a real bummer. I don't particularly want
> to downgrade to a TU81+. Does anyone actually use TK70's for
> backup on mid-range systems?
Being able to share our TA78's with the VMS cluster was
my biggest reason for getting an HSC and CI adapters. I've
only played with a TK70 on a VS3500, so I can't comment much
about it. I don't see any reason that a VAX 6000-xxx or
DECsystem 5800 shouldn't be able to keep it streaming, so
it will be close the same speed as a TA78/9. I won't know
what the affective capacity is, but I'd guess it to be between
250 MB and 295 MB. The cartridges are more expensive then
a 9-track tape, so the cost per MB is probably higher. They
do have advantage of being smaller if MB per square foot is
a concern.
> --
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Alan Rollow, Digital Equipment Corp.
Database Systems, Colorado Springs CO.
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