No, CBREAK is ~ICANON on System V and setting VMIN and VTIME to whatever values you think reasonable (the V7 driver acted as if VMIN were 1 and VTIME were 0). RAW is ~(ICANON|ISTRIP|ISIG), also setting the character size to 8, turning off all parity handling, and setting VMIN and VTIME. Guy Harris {seismo,ihnp4,allegra}!rlgvax!guy