I finally broke down and decided to give vi a try. But to my surprise I could not edit this message. If you have the same 4.2 version of ex/vi we have then you won't be able to either. Save this message in a file somewhere and try to vi it. Are we the only ones to get this "feature" ? NOTE: ed, 4.1 vi both work. vi:q!: Phil (I always use ed) Poulos