UNIX vs VMS (or here we go again....)
God
root%bostonu.csnet at csnet-relay.arpa
Mon Nov 19 03:24:16 AEST 1984
Ok, as a person in charge of system software and hardware
maintenance on 15 Vaxen (some UNIX, some VMS), a 2060 and
several other machines here is my view:
Software Maintenance
Ok, VMS is maintained by DEC for a flat rate. But
what does that mean:
It hardly has a mailer, so you go out and get a
mail system from somewhere else.
It barely has word processing (runoff??!) so you
go out and get word processing from somewhere else.
Ooops, no graphics libraries...let's look through
the ads again
hmm, only DECNET...well that's ok if all I do is
talk to myself or other VMS vaxes (support across
other DEC OS's is poor) but maybe I better do something
more generic....get another vendor
(by the way, dec's support when DECNET breaks
is poor at best)
etc, etc...(hey, let's put up all these neat, free
DECUS programs...maybe then we'll have software...)
THEN........they distribute a new version (3.701823) which
breaks all your software.
Sooooo, you call all your vendors and start listing
promises (sorry, but understand we get the new VMS
when YOU get the new VMS...gonna take a few months
until your network/mail/word processing/graphics
works again or you can shelve your updates until
we are ALL ready)
But of course all of these vendors come to your site and
install their new versions of the software and define all
the X**N logical names which always clash cause they don't
ever have lunch together.
And of COURSE DEC WILL NEVER DROP TOPS-20...oops, sorry,
I meant VMS.....
And of COURSE you only want to buy DEC machines for the
rest of your life no matter if they fit your needs or
not (workstations...next year maybe, PCs...next year maybe,
MAINFRAMES??? depends what you mean, if you don't mean
mainframe maybe we can help you, super-compute engines???
aint 4MIPS on a 8600 enuf for you? What...your 3081 is already
getting 15MIPS???? And the CRAY-II is gonna run UNIX not VMS...
those philistines!)
Most VMS systems I have seen are a nightmare of a patchwork
of random, unintegrated software systems that are never
quite working even at the basic level. Here at BU many more
person-hours are spent trying to keep these crazy-quilts
afloat than any of our UNIX systems.
Of course, if you don't need software other than an editor
and a (admittedly very good for what its worth) Fortran
compiler (and a PRINT command) then you probably should
use VMS. (and a system call interface that rivals OS/360 in
obscurity.)
For me, I'll take my 'chances' with UNIX any day. What a
nice fantasy...to run a computer system without the need
for expertise, I guess it works if you don't actually do
anything with the system....or have very low standards.
-Barry Shein
Sr Systems Manager
UNIX guru
Boston University
Distributed Systems Group
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