I too have been unable to get information from DEC. I am not convinced that DEC really wants to sell me Ultrix. I am looking forwards to talking to the appropriate DEC managers at Decus. Steve Lazarus (415) 852-4203 Ford Aerospace ...fortune!wdl1!sml (USENET) MS X-20 sml at ford-wdl1 (ARPA) 3939 Fabian Way Palo Alto, CA 94303