Forgive the re-posting; this doesn't seem to have made it out: What does TIOCNOTTY do? I know it's used in network server code, but why? thanks, -- Rich $alz {mit-eddie, ihnp4!inmet, wjh12, cca, datacube} !mirror!rs Mirror Systems 2067 Massachusetts Ave. 617-661-0777 Cambridge, MA, 02140