In BSD4.2, is there any good reason why /etc/rc shouldn't have an "exec >/dev/console 2>1" at the top, and punt all those line-by-line redirections throughout it and rc.local? -- Rich $alz {mit-eddie, ihnp4!inmet, wjh12, cca, datacube}!mirror!rs Mirror Systems 2067 Massachusetts Avenue Cambridge, MA, 02140 Telephone: 6,176,610,777