F77 is slow, slow, slow. If you want fast, fast, fast fortran for scientific computing, use Alliant's FX/FORTRAN. We're talking FAST! Very VAX/VMS Fortran compatible. Bucks per megaflop, can't be beat. Patrick Wolfe pwolfe at kai.com ..!{uunet,ihnp4}!uiucuxc!kailand!pwolfe I speak for myself.