>Isn't there a way under BSD just to get 8-bit output? There should be. The bit to set for exactly this purpose is LLITOUT. It's in the local modes word. See tty(4) for details. -- Ed Gould mt Xinu, 2560 Ninth St., Berkeley, CA 94710 USA {ucbvax,uunet}!mtxinu!ed +1 415 644 0146 "I'll fight them as a woman, not a lady. I'll fight them as an engineer."