Can't get Segate ST-4096 to work in UNIXPC (works fine in 6

Thad P Floryan thad at cup.portal.com
Sun Jul 2 10:09:25 AEST 1989


Since the question has come up again from Larry Thurman, when I posted my
original answer yesterday I was at my office and didn't have this info
available.  I'm at my lab and now I do, so here it is.

This collection of postings from earlier this year contains Q&A about some
of the UNIXPC upgrades, where to order some of the upgrade kits, and a listing
of some HDs known to function with the UNIXPC.  All of these are unedited
copies of the original postings by the original posters.

Hope this helps!

Thad Floryan [ thad at cup.portal.com (OR) ..!sun!portal!cup.portal.com!thad ]

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From: gil at limbic.UUCP (Gil Kloepfer Jr.)
Newsgroups: unix-pc.general,comp.sys.att
Subject: UNIX-pc Second Hard Drive - Information (lengthy)
Date: 16 Feb 89 04:22:32 GMT

My apologies to those who have seen this before, or who may be otherwise
"offended" by the repost of this article -- I have been swamped with
questions about the second hard disk upgrade, and I see no need to send
out individual mail to each person.  Here's the poop:

Question:  What's the difference between the P5.1 upgrade and the second
           hard disk expansion upgrade?

Answer:

P5.1 is a REVISION DESIGNATION of the motherboard.  The original P5.1 field
upgrade was an unreleased AT&T field upgrade which added a PAL and a bunch
of jumpers on the motherboard and "turned-on" some OS features, and decoded
a 4th head select line from an internal port called MCR2.

The second hard disk expansion is a SUPERSET of the P5.1 expansion.  The
second hard disk upgrade upgrades a motherboard to P5.1 (has to, P5.1 is
just a motherboard which has MCR2), decodes the 4th head select from MCR2,
and decodes another bit on MCR2 which allows a second disk drive select.

Question:  Do I need to install the second disk upgrade in order to have
           the P5.1 upgrade?

Answer:

No, but it is kind of silly to do P5.1 without doing the 2nd disk upgrade
unless you only plan to install a bigger drive in your 3B1.  There is
somewhat more wiring involved in the construction of the 2nd disk upgrade,
but it shouldn't be scary if you feel comfortable running jumpers all around
on your motherboard.

P5.1 alone doesn't really add any new functionality to a 3B1 with a stock 
40 or 67 meg hard disk drive.  Neither does the second hard disk expansion
unless you add the second hard disk.

Question:  I already did the original PAL-based P5.1 motherboard upgrade.
           Does the second hard disk expansion mean undoing all my work?

Answer:

No.  If you socketed the PAL in the P5.1 upgrade, you need only add 7 more
motherboard jumpers, one modification to the motherboard, and construct
the expansion board.  The socket on the motherboard where you had the PAL
will be used to connect the expansion board to the motherboard via a
ribbon cable (there will be a 20 pin DIP header on the motherboard side
of the ribbon cable which now plugs into the motherboard).

One other note is that the ICUS second disk expansion requires no PAL
programming to be performed.  The only chips used are standard LS TTL
chips and two hard disk buffer ICs (available at outfits like Jameco
Electronics in California and some local electronics supply houses).

Question:  What's the difference between the ICUS second hard disk upgrade
           and the one that John Milton is working on?

Answer:

John is planning on eliminating one phase of construction of the second
disk upgrade by distributing a completed PC board with his upgrade
instructions.  The PC board will eliminate the need to wire a small 5-chip
circuit on a perfboard (the perfboard-wired circuit is fairly simple and
straightforward, but might look scary to some folks).  John's upgrade
will also provide the capability for 4 hard disks *when the software to
use them comes available*.  Currently, the OS software only allows 2
hard disks to be connected, and 4 partitions to be simultaneously mounted.

Both the ICUS upgrade and John's upgrade will require the motherboard to
be modified and jumpers installed.  This requires a significant amount
of patience and care to be performed correctly.

Question:  Is any additional software required for the use of two
           disk drives?

Answer:

No, this is built-into the operating system.  The devices for the second
hard disk are /dev/rfp010 - /dev/rfp01f  and /dev/fp010 - /dev/fp01f .

Question:  I am interested in getting the ICUS upgrade?  How do I do so?

Answer:

The ICUS upgrade is a manual, not a kit.  It provides the items outlined
below:

	1.  Schematic diagram of the upgrade (extension) board
	2.  Full instructions regarding the motherboard
	    modifications and assembly of the extension board
	3.  Theory of operation of the modification
	4.  Photographs (aproximately 10) showing the more
	    difficult portions of the upgrade (sections of the
	    motherboard where wires were routed, socket installed,
	    a section where wires are soldered to pads instead of
	    chips, construction of the extension board)
	5.  Diagrams (where the photos fall short) and construction
	    hints

For an additional fee of $5, we will also send a disk with the extended
diagnostic on it (this contains commands which allow larger disks to
be formatted [ie. disks with more than 1024 cylinders] and tested, and
it also allows you to partition your disk into multiple smaller partitions).

To order the upgrade plans, send a check (or money order) for the correct
amount:

	$30 - Hard disk upgrade plans
	$35 - Hard disk upgrade plans with diagnostic disk

...and NET ADDRESS to:

		ICUS Software Systems
		Hard disk expansion plans
		c/o Lenny Tropiano
		P. O. Box 1
		Islip Terrace, NY  11752

Make checks payable to Lenny Tropiano or Gil Kloepfer.

We are requesting that you send us your net address so that we can send
you e-mail when we send out your plans, and so that if any problems are
discovered after we mail your plans, that we can contact you in the
future.

If you are not confortable following a schematic diagram and constructing
a small circuit on perfboard, we recommend that you wait for John Milton's
upgrade since the assembled PC board will eliminate this step.  I don't
know when John's upgrade will be available.  Remember that for both upgrades
the motherboard modifications will still be required.

I hope this answers some of the questions I have been receiving.

-------
Gil Kloepfer, Jr.          U-Net: {decuac,boulder,talcott,sbcs}!icus!limbic!gil
ICUS Software Systems      Voice: (516) 968-6860 [H]   (516) 746-2350 x219 [W]
P.O. Box 1                 Internet:  gil at icus.islp.ny.us
Islip Terrace, NY  11752   "Life's a ...  well, you know..."

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From: jbm at uncle.UUCP (John B. Milton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.att,unix-pc.general
Subject: Re: UNIX-pc Second Hard Drive - Information (lengthy)
Date: 19 Feb 89 06:18:44 GMT

In article <466 at limbic.UUCP> gil at limbic.UUCP (Gil Kloepfer Jr.) writes:
...
>                                                       John's upgrade
>will also provide the capability for 4 hard disks *when the software to
>use them comes available*.  Currently, the OS software only allows 2
>hard disks to be connected, and 4 partitions to be simultaneously mounted.

It will also provided feed through connectors for the floppy drive, and
provide the hardware for a second floppy drive, once again, when the software
becomes available.

Everyone who wants to be notfied by e-mail directly when I get it done should
e-mail me. This will also affect my thoughts on pricing and how fast I should
gear up production. I you are one of a group of users, just send me one mail
message with the number of machines.

Once again, for those of you who don't know: I will be providing assembled and
tested boards ONLY. I have not settled on a price, and I don't want to turn
you off or get your hopes up by posting a price I may change later...

John
-- 
John Bly Milton IV, jbm at uncle.UUCP, n8emr!uncle!jbm at osu-cis.cis.ohio-state.edu
(614) h:294-4823, w:764-2933;  Got any good 74LS503 circuits?

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From: cmv at ttrde.UUCP (C M Votava)
Newsgroups: unix-pc.general
Subject: Hard Disks for the unixpc
Date: 25 Feb 89 22:32:48 GMT

About a year ago, I posted this list to the net. I've received a lot
of mail asking me to post it again, so here it is.

This is a list of ST506/412 hard disk drives that *should* work in the
unixpc. All drives are 5.25" unless otherwize specified. The drives that
I have "VERIFIED" next to are drives that I *KNOW* by
first had experience, or reliable second hand experience, work fine. The
others should work, but I've not heard any confirmations on. I'm sure there
are more out there that can be verified, or that are missing from this list.
Please drop me mail if you can help me update this list any.

Once again, here it is...

5/25/88

Model	Height	Size 		Ave Sk	Heads:	Record
		unformatted	time	Cyls	Method	Comments
=============================================================================
----------------------------CONTROL DATA-------------------------------------
FWCDC48	Full	48.20MBytes	28msec	5:925	MFM
94205-51 Half	51.__MBytes	28msec	5:989	MFM	VERIFIED (quiet!)
FWCDC85	Full	85.30MBytes	28msec	8:1024	MFM
94155-86 Full	86.__MBytes	28msec	9:925	MFM	VERIFIED
94355-55 Half	55.__MBytes	16msec	5:1072	MFM	3.5" FAST!!! 
94355-100 Half	100._MBytes	16msec	9:1072	MFM	3.5" FAST!!! VERIFIED
94335-55 Half	55.__MBytes	25msec	5:1072	MFM	3.5"
94335-100 Half	100._MBytes	25msec	9:1072	MFM	3.5"
-------------------------DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CORP------------------------------
RD32	Half	51.__MBytes	48msec	?	?
RD52	Full	33.__MBytes	38msec	8:512	MFM	(Quantum)
RD53	Full	85.__MBytes	38msec	8:1024	MFM	(Micropolis1335)
RD54	Full	191._MBytes	38msec	?	?	(Maxtor2190??)
-------------------------------FUJITSU---------------------------------------
2243AS2	Full	86.__MBytes	30msec	11:754	MFM	VERIFIED
2443T	Half	86.__MBytes	25msec	7:1185	MFM
-------------------------------HITACHI---------------------------------------
DK521	Half	51.40MBytes	25msec	?	?
-------------------------------MAXTOR----------------------------------------
XT1085	Full	85.30MBytes	28msec	8:1024	MFM
XT1140	Full	143.5MBytes	27msec	15:918	MFM
XT2190	Full	191.2MBytes	30msec	15:1224	MFM
-----------------------------MICROPOLIS--------------------------------------
1325	Full	80.??MBytes	??msec	8:1024	MFM	VERIFIED gizzmo!mark
1333A	Full	53.30MBytes	30msec	5:1024	MFM
1335	Full	85.30MBytes	30msec	8:1024	MFM
----------------------------MICROSCIENCE-------------------------------------
HH-1050	Half	53.35MBytes	28msec	?	MFM
HH-4050	Full	53.35MBytes	18msec	?	?
-----------------------------MINISCRIBE--------------------------------------
		**formatted**
		*****size***
3053	Half	44.00MBytes	29msec  5:1024	MFM	VERIFIED
3212+	Half	12.75MBytes	53msec	2:615	MFM
3425+	Half	21.40MBytes	53msec	4:615	MFM
3650	Half	42.25MBytes	61msec	6:809	MFM	VERIFIED
6032	Full	26.70MBytes	28msec	3:1024	MFM
6053	Full	44.60MBytes	28msec	5:1024	MFM
6085	Full	71.30MBytes	28msec	8:1024	MFM	VERIFIED
---------------------------NEWBURY DATA INC----------------------------------
NDR1000	Full	65.__MBytes	25msec	?	?
NDR2000 Full	190._MBytes	28msec	?	?
--------------------------------PRIAM----------------------------------------
ID40	Full	51.10MBytes	28msec	5:981	MFM
ID45H	Half	53.20MBytes	28msec	5:1024	MFM
ID60	Full	71.50MBytes	28msec	7:981	MFM
ID130	Full	159.9MBytes	28msec	15:1024	MFM
519	Full	191.2MBytes	22msec	?	?
-----------------------------RODIME INC--------------------------------------
RO5090	Full	89.__MBytes	28msec	?	?
-------------------------------SEAGATE---------------------------------------
ST225	Half	25.60MBytes	20msec	4:615	MFM
ST251	Half	51.20MBytes	40msec	6:820	MFM	VERIFIED
ST251-1	Half	51.20MBytes	28msec	6:820	MFM	VERIFIED
ST4038	Full	38.20MBytes	40msec	5:733	MFM
ST4053	Full	50.90MBytes	40msec	5:1024	MFM
ST4096	Full	96.00MBytes	28msec	9:1024	MFM
=============================================================================

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