Where to ask (was Re: turbo C memory question)
Rob Carriere
rob at kaa.eng.ohio-state.edu
Fri Nov 10 10:19:59 AEST 1989
In article <165 at xyzzy.UUCP> goudreau at rtp48.dg.com (Bob Goudreau) writes:
>In article <73774 at tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> Loyde W Hales
<lwh at cis.ohio-state.edu> writes:
>>I don't think he's saying that [*.ibm.pc are overfilled with garbage so we
need to siphon some of it over to here] at all. I think he's saying that
*.ibm.pc are
>>broad-set newsgroups, covering every aspect of the machines. This isn't
>>efficient for questions dealing with C.
>
>Hmmm. By that logic, the following diametrically opposed statement is
>equally reasonable:
>
> "I think he's saying that comp.lang.* are broad-set newsgroups,
> covering every aspect of the languages. This isn't efficient for
> questions dealing with IBM PCs."
>
>Perhaps what we really need to do is to split the comp.lang.c newsgroup
>into comp.lang.c.definition and comp.lang.c.implementations :-).
Perhaps what we really need to do is to stand back and _think_ for a moment.
Why is the news split up in groups? So as to cause religious wars? Generate
more posts? Or, perhaps, to help us digest the stuff?
Ah, then it is a heuristic. Not a sacred law, but a heuristic. Like any
heuristic worth its salt, news group separation needs to applied
intelligently, or things get silly.
If somebody wants to start a discussion about Budhism, this is clearly not
the place. If somebody wants to know whether the piece of code {....} is
portable, it is. In between, things get more vague. The reason? Humans are
notoriously bad at categorizing, they work with fuzzy sets rather than the
normal ones. So there is a mismatch between us and the newsgroup structure.
So it won't quite work perfectly; what my fuzzy membership evaluator says is
still acceptable, yours denounces as heresy, and war follows soon after.
Please, I already have to work with _machines_ that insist on splitting all
hairs in sight, if the _humans_ are going to join in, I think I'm going to
scream, look for a nice tall building and try out Arthur Dent's theory on
flight :-)
Also, consider this: if we hadn't started this dicussion, think of all the fun
we could have had in that bandwidth by pointing at IBM segment registers and
snickering :-) In other words, considering that the machine-specific posts do
not by any reasonable strecth of any healthy imagination constitute a flood
(or even wet feet :-), isn't the cure causing more problems than the supposed
disease? (And don't tell me it _shouldn't_ have. I don't give a hoot about
shoulds. I have seen several people trying to start this campaign several
times now, always with the same result: we have a flame war for a while, and
then things go back to the old ways. It may not be pretty, but them's the
facts)
SR
"Lessee, watercooled underwear, check. Insulating overwear, check.
Flame-resistant coveral, mask and hood, check. Independent airsupply, check.
Shields up, check. Deflector screens on, check. /dev/flame_drain mounted,
check. Dummy activated, check. Comfy hiding place prepared, check. OK, I
think I can send this now."
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