Obtaining POSIX documents.

Donn Terry donn at hpfcrn.fc.hp.com
Fri Mar 15 03:06:36 AEST 1991

Submitted-by: donn at hpfcrn.fc.hp.com (Donn Terry)

Since I'm frequently asked how to get ahold of POSIX documents, here are
the standard answers.  This is my best understanding of the data, but
isn't official.  Please let me know of any errors (and I'll fix them),
but don't blame me for them.

Jim Isaak mailed an eariler draft of this document, which contained an
earlier version of the form that appears below, which was also posted
to comp.std.unix.  DO NOT USE THAT OTHER FORM.  The folks who do the
mailing had some specific input about the design of the form, and this
version reflects that input.  

Donn Terry

		Sources of information about the POSIX Standards

A quick picture:

	Copies of the IEEE and ISO POSIX.1 Standard (ISO 9945-1:1990,
	a.k.a. IEEE Std.  1003.1-1990) can be obtained from the IEEE
	Computer Society at +1 (714) 821-8380. (See below for international
	sources, mail contacts, and the like.)

	Copies of Draft standards in progress can be obtained from the
	IEEE Computer Society office:  +1 (202) 371-0101.

	Information on the POSIX Conformance Test Suite used by the U.S.
	Government can be obtained from:  +1 (703) 487-4650,
	Order #PB90-500919.

	IEEE is offering a seminar on the POSIX standards, for more
	details, contact:  +1 (800) 678-IEEE (see IEEE Stds Office below).

	Uniforum publishes a set of "POSIX Explored" publications on the
	POSIX standards.  These can be obtained from Uniforum,
	+1 (408) 986-8840.

	There are also various privately authored tutorial books on the
	subject available from several sources.  (None listed here to
	avoid any implication of endorsing one over the other in case I
	miss any.)

1) Machine readable, any form: currently not available. 
   (But being investigated. The current reasons are summarized at
   the end.)

2) Paper copies of Published Standards.

   There are two versions of ISO/IEC 9945-1 (a.k.a. IEEE 1003.1).  The
   ISO and IEEE documents are identical except for the covers. 

   This is the only "fully approved" POSIX standard at this point, it
   replaces IEEE Std. 1003.1-1988, which is still referenced by the
   U.S. Government's FIPS 151-1.

   The ISO documents can be ordered through the various national bodies.
   ANSI in the US, DIN in Germany, etc.

   Document numbers:

		ISO/IEC 9945-1:1990 
		IEEE Std. 1003.1-1990
		IEEE Order number SH13680 
		IEEE CS Catalog number 1019
		ISBN 1-55937-061-0

	(Other documents not yet available in this form.)

   IEEE availability.

	   The IEEE version can be ordered from several sources.  The
	   "SH" number (found on the lower left of the cover or lower
	   right of the front inside cover is the key to ordering it.)

	   There is a 10% quantity discounts (>50 copies) from IEEE.
	   The first copy for IEEE (but not CS) members is 30% discount
	   from IEEE, all others at list.  The CS has a different
	   discount schedule that applies to CS members as well.

	   There is an order form in the IEEE Standards Catalog about
	   who can do credit purchases.  Call +1 (908) 562-3800 to
	   request a copy of the catalog.

	POSIX.1: List $75.00

	   Continental US:
	        Computer Society: +1 (714) 821 8380  (Ask for Customer Service)
		or IEEE Publication Sales +1 (800) 678-IEEE

		IEEE Canada			+1 (908) 981-1393.
		7071 Yonge St.
		Thornhill, Ontario L3T 2A6

	   Outside Continental US or via paper.

		IEEE Service Center		+1 (800) 678-IEEE
		445 Hoes Lane, PO Box 1331
		Piscataway, NJ 08855-1331


		IEEE Computer Society		+1 (714) 821 8380  
		10662 Los Vaqueros Cir.		Fax +1 (714) 821 4010
		PO Box 3014
		Los Alamitos Ca. 90720-3014

		IEEE Computer Society		+32 2 770 2198
		Jacques Kevers			Fax +32 2 770 8505
		13, Ave de l'Aquilon
		Brussels, Belgium.

		IEEE Computer Society		+81 33 408 3118
		Ms. Kyoko Mikami		Fax +81 33 408 3553
		Ooshima Building
		2-19-1 Minami Aoyma 
		Minato-Ku, Tokyo 107 

   ISO Availability:

	1, rue de Varembe
	Gase Postale 58
	Geneve 20

	ANSI					+1 (212) 354-3300
	1430 Broadway
	New York, NY 10010

3) Drafts in Balloting.

     For drafts that currently are in balloting contact the 
     IEEE Standards office at the Hoes Lane address above.

     There may be a per-page copying charge.

4) Drafts not yet balloting (working drafts), contact:

	IEEE Computer Society		(202) 371-0101
	1730 Massachusetts Ave N.W.	Fax (202) 728-9614
	Washington, DC 20036-1903

     There may be a per-page copying charge.

5) Subscriptions to the POSIX mailings:
   Note that this form tends to get a bit out of date rapidly.  However, it
   should get you reasonably plugged into the process.   Explanatory
   notes follow the form.

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An average mailing of all materials is over 2000 pages.
Regular delivery to international addresses can take up to 8 weeks.

Project Number and Title list:

   1003.0	POSIX Guide,		    1003.11 Transaction	Processing AEP
   1003.1	System Interfaces,	    1003.12 Protocol Independent Interf
   1003.2	Shell &	Util.		    1003.13 Real Time AEP,
   1003.3	Test Methods,		    1003.14 Multiprocessing AEP,
   1003.4	Real Time,		    1003.15 Batch Services,
   1003.5	Ada Bindings,		    1003.17 Directory Service API,
   1003.6	POSIX Security,		    1003.18 POSIX Platform AEP
   1003.7	System Admin.,		    1201.1  Windowing Toolkit API,
   1003.8	Trans. File Access	    1201.2  User Interface Driveability
   1003.9	Fortran	Bindings	    1224    X.400 Gateway API,
   1003.10	Supercomputing AEP	    1238    Common OSI API & FTAM API

Send the materials to:		For inquiries about current subscription:

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IEEE Computer Society			117 Mackubin St.  Suite 6
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On machine readable:

Machine readable copies of the standards, in any form are currently
not available.  Period.

   a) Document integrity.  There is a real risk (in that apparently
      it has happened) that slightly modified documents are passed off
      as the "real" standard.  (Although not impossible, it's harder
      with paper, and more blatantly illegal.)

      Secondarily, when you obtain a copy how do you know, for sure,
      that it hasn't been tapered with?  You'd have to have some 
      trusted source.  (Particularly critical for purchasing litigation.)

   b) Loss of income to ISO or IEEE (although an important reason, 
      cynicism aside, it is less important than the first.)  Without
      that income, IEEE would be able to progress the standards process
      forward.  Much of the development process is "free" to the IEEE
      volunteers who do the work (for example, editorial support, 
      much of the balloting process, and lots of logistical support).
      This is supported by sales of the document.  Ditto ISO.

   Nevertheless it is being investigated as a recognized need, and if
   the problems above can be dealt with, some form of machine readable
   will be available in the future.

Other notes:

   The other POSIX standards will (mostly) become IEEE and ISO standards
   in time, but for many there will likely be a period where there is
   only an IEEE version.

   The IEEE has a plasticized cover, blue with orange trim, identified on
   the spine (and they tell me that the orange is a color code).  The
   ISO cover is the standard ISO white cover.  Both are on A4 paper.

Volume-Number: Volume 23, Number 14

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