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Date: 16 Aug 90 06:08:00 MDT
From: info-unix at BRL.MIL
Subject: INFO-UNIX Digest V10#118
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INFO-UNIX Digest Thu, 16 Aug 1990 V10#118
Today's Topics:
Call for Discussion: comp.benchmarks
Re: get terminal speed from shell script
Filesizes of [mdn]dbm-files
Cshell question: taking wordlists as a single string
Re: Cshell question: taking wordlists as a single string
Re: Recursion without -R
Re: Timeout on shell command.
Re: redirecting standard i/o from an exec'ed programme
Re: directory reading
Re: 'foo bar' <- What's the meaning of?
Re: -F option for awk
More questions about how to issue a C-SHELL command within a C program
Re: More questions about how to issue a C-SHELL command within a C program
login shell suspend
Re: directory "indexer"
Re: Compiling GNU Bourne Again SHell (bash) on SUN OS
Re: How to issue a C SHELL command within a C program
Re: How to issue a C SHELL command with
Re: What's wrong with this Bourne shell script?
New UNIX Network Questions
MACH stripped from AT&T code ?
recursive variable substitution in csh
getting the exit value of an exec'd program
Re: getting the exit value of an exec'd program
Wanted: login & getty source (non-AT&T)
Re: Spy Programs??
TeX and LaTeX Docs and man pages
How does a C program know its input is being redirected?
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From: SILL D E <de5 at stc06.ctd.ornl.gov>
Subject: Call for Discussion: comp.benchmarks
Date: 5 Aug 90 21:44:27 GMT
Sender: lear at turbo.bio.net
Followup-To: news.groups
Approved: lear at turbo.bio.net
To: info-unix at sem.brl.mil
"There are lies, damned lies, and benchmarks," to paraphrase someone
whose name escapes me at the moment. Like it or not, though,
benchmarks are a fact of life in the computing world. So in the
spirit of `knowing thy enemy', I'd like to propose the formation of an
unmoderated newsgroup for:
- Discussions about benchmarks including:
. hardware benchmarks
. numeric benchmarks
. operating system benchmarks
. compiler benchmarks
. graphics benchmarks
. window system benchmarks
. multiple interactive user load simulations
. validity of benchmarks/benchmarking
. benchmarking as a procurement tool
. benchmarking anecdotes
- Publishing benchmark results
. especially user-run rather than vendor-run
- Publishing benchmark source code and availability info
. including bug fixes/reports
If it's warranted, I'll issue a Call for Votes at least 14 days after
this posting.
--
Dave Sill (de5 at ornl.gov)
Martin Marietta Energy Systems
Workstation Support
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From: Jim Rogers <jimr at hp-lsd.cos.hp.com>
Subject: Re: get terminal speed from shell script
Date: 13 Aug 90 15:38:11 GMT
To: info-unix at sem.brl.mil
If your version of stty writes only to stderr then you can redirect
that in a useful manner:
speed=`stty speed 2>&1`
This will place the the speed of your terminal in the variable speed even
if stty writes to stderr.
Jim Rogers
Hewlett Packard Company
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From: Axel Dunkel <ad at cat.uucp>
Subject: Filesizes of [mdn]dbm-files
Date: 14 Aug 90 12:28:17 GMT
To: info-unix at sem.brl.mil
I want to build a [mn]dbm database with several thousand records about
300 bytes each. Although I know that dbm leaves big holes in its files,
they are just too big: 1000 records with 300k of data result in a file
of 16 MEGABytes, 2MB of data become a 500 MB file. The problem occurs
at backup time: tar/cpio don't leave the holes out and so try to backup
several GIGAbytes of data which makes Backups nearly impossible.
Any suggestions on how to reduce the filesizes/holes of n/m/dbm?
---
Axel Dunkel (ad at cat.de or ad at cat.uucp or ..!unido!cat!ad)
C.A.T. Kommunkations-System, Frankfurt, West Germany
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From: Andy Clews <andy at syma.sussex.ac.uk>
Subject: Cshell question: taking wordlists as a single string
Date: 14 Aug 90 12:58:11 GMT
To: info-unix at sem.brl.mil
I have a Csh script called "whatnews" which takes words as arguments and
searches the file /usr/lib/news/newsgroups for lines containing any one
of those words, the requirement being to show users what newsgroups are
there that may be something to do with the searched word. It is not
case sensitive (i.e. it uses fgrep -i)
whatnews biology
"whatnews" then proceeds to show me all lines in /usr/lib/news/newgroups
that contain the string "biology". If several words are supplied as a
list, whatnews searches the file for each of these words. The
difficulty arises because I want to do (for example)
whatnews "bug reports"
where the intended effect is to search out all lines containing the
string "bug reports". At the moment it splits this up into "bug" and
"reports" and does two searches. This is because the script contains a
foreach i ($*)
loop for repeated searches. Quoting (single or double) doesn't help.
Basically, then, can Cshell cope with word-lists as single arguments, or
must I write a C program to do the job (or try sh or ksh?)
No joy as yet with TFM. Any help appreciated; email probably best. I
will summarise if possible. Thanks for listening.
--
Andy Clews, Computing Service, Univ. of Sussex, Brighton BN1 9QN, England
JANET: andy at syma.sussex.ac.uk BITNET: andy%syma.sussex.ac.uk at uk.ac
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From: Randal Schwartz <merlyn at iwarp.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Cshell question: taking wordlists as a single string
Date: 16 Aug 90 06:59:17 GMT
Sender: news at iwarp.intel.com
To: info-unix at sem.brl.mil
In article <3251 at syma.sussex.ac.uk>, andy at syma (Andy Clews) writes:
| I have a Csh script called "whatnews" which takes words as arguments and
| searches the file /usr/lib/news/newsgroups for lines containing any one
| of those words, the requirement being to show users what newsgroups are
| there that may be something to do with the searched word. It is not
| case sensitive (i.e. it uses fgrep -i)
|
| whatnews biology
|
| "whatnews" then proceeds to show me all lines in /usr/lib/news/newgroups
| that contain the string "biology". If several words are supplied as a
| list, whatnews searches the file for each of these words. The
| difficulty arises because I want to do (for example)
|
| whatnews "bug reports"
|
| where the intended effect is to search out all lines containing the
| string "bug reports". At the moment it splits this up into "bug" and
| "reports" and does two searches. This is because the script contains a
| foreach i ($*)
| loop for repeated searches. Quoting (single or double) doesn't help.
|
| Basically, then, can Cshell cope with word-lists as single arguments, or
| must I write a C program to do the job (or try sh or ksh?)
|
| No joy as yet with TFM. Any help appreciated; email probably best. I
| will summarise if possible. Thanks for listening.
Well, you can try this Perl script:
================================================== snip snip
#!/usr/bin/perl
for (@ARGV) {
s/\W/\\$1/g; # de-magicize
$all .= "$_|"; # and create regular-expression
}
chop($all); # remove last "|"
open(G,"/usr/lib/news/newsgroups") || die "Cannot open newsgroups: $!";
while (<G>) {
print if /$all/io;
}
close(G);
================================================== snip snip
Untested, but it should do the job.
--
/=Randal L. Schwartz, Stonehenge Consulting Services (503)777-0095 ==========\
| on contract to Intel's iWarp project, Beaverton, Oregon, USA, Sol III |
| merlyn at iwarp.intel.com ...!any-MX-mailer-like-uunet!iwarp.intel.com!merlyn |
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From: Rich Kaul <kaul at icarus.eng.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Re: Recursion without -R
Date: 15 Aug 90 00:57:29 GMT
Sender: kaul at icarus.eng.ohio-state.edu
To: info-unix at sem.brl.mil
In article <13595 at ulysses.att.com> swfc at ulysses.att.com (Shu-Wie F Chen) writes:
find . -print | xargs chown foo
Of course, this only works if you have xargs, which is from System V and
is also available on SunOS in their System V software installation option.
Or if you were smart enough to grab the free, PD version that Gordon
Moffet posted a while ago. I still have a copy sitting around
somewhere so drop me a line if you want it.
-rich
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From: Georg Wittig <wittig at gmdzi.uucp>
Subject: Re: Recursion without -R
Keywords: recursion
Date: 15 Aug 90 09:31:41 GMT
To: info-unix at sem.brl.mil
rjshaw at ramius.ocf.llnl.gov (Robert Shaw) writes:
>What are some quick tricks for getting programs like chmod and chown to
>descend into all subdirectories? Programs without a -R option, that is.
find . -exec chmod go-rw {} \;
--or-- find . -type f -exec chmod go-rw {} \;
--
Georg Wittig GMD-Z1.IT | wittig at gmdzi.gmd.de | "Freedom's just another word
P.O. Box 1240 | wittig at zi.gmd.dbp.de | for nothing left to lose"
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From: "Liam R. E. Quin" <lee at sq.sq.com>
Subject: Re: Timeout on shell command.
Date: 15 Aug 90 04:56:49 GMT
To: info-unix at sem.brl.mil
brister at decwrl.dec.com (James Brister) writes:
>I'd like to have a shell script run a command, but if that command doesn't
>finish in X seconds, then the script should kill it, if the command
>finishes sooner then the script should immediately continue.
tchrist at convex.COM (Tom Christiansen) writes:
>Here's timeout.c; syntax is 'timeout seconds command'.
That is probably the neatest solution.
Another way (if you need a shell-only solution) is
Process One:
# write my PID ($$) to a tmp file, tmp1
echo $$ > $tmp1
# run command
$command
# mark ourselves as done:
/bin/rm -f $tmp1
# if tmp2 exists, kill that process
test -f $tmp2 && kill `cat $tmp2`
Process Two:
# write my PID to a file, tmp2
echo $$ > $tmp2
# wait a while
sleep 27
# mark ourselves as done so the other half does not kill us now
/bin/rm -f $tmp2
# kill the other half if it is still running
test -f $tmp1 && kill `cat $tmp1`
Now do
ProcessOne &
ProcessTwo &
wait
If you have other background tasks, write these three "lines" out to
a temporary file and execute that -- then the wait will only wait for
ProcessOne and ProcessTwo.
If you don't want the PIDs to appear when you do the Process1 &, you
can play tricks with
/bin/sh -c "command &"
which won't print the PID of the background process on most systems, but
only works with simple commands (no |, &&, etc) without care.
The variant
( /bin/sh -c "exec 2>&3; command" & ) 3>&2 2>/dev/null
works better. It says,
^^^^
Run the thing in ( ) with file descriptor 3 open in addition to the
standard 0, 1 and 2 (2 is standard error, used for messages). Make
file descriptor 3 be the same as descriptor 2.
Having done that, send everything written ^^^^^^^^^^^
on file descriptor 2 (standard error) to /dev/null -- in other words,
throw away all error messages. This will throw away the PID, which is
what we want, but will also throw away any error messages generated
by "command".
The
exec 2>&3;
tells the /bin/sh _inside_ the ( ) to make file descriptor 2 be the
same as file descriptor 3, which we previously opened as the original
standard error. So this restores standard error messages for the
command inside the quotes.
Which is what we need.
Well, you might say that it would be less arcane to include the C
program `timeout' given by Tom Christiansen, and to compile it on the
fly, but in practice the commands are likely (I hope) to be simple, and
the first form with /bin/sh -c "command" will probably work fine.
Lee
--
Liam R. E. Quin, lee at sq.com, {utai,utzoo}!sq!lee, SoftQuad Inc., Toronto
-----------------------------
From: "Jay A. Konigsberg" <jak at sactoh0.uucp>
Subject: Re: Timeout on shell command.
Date: 16 Aug 90 02:12:09 GMT
To: info-unix at sem.brl.mil
In article <1990Aug12.221658.27776 at uncle.uucp> donlash at uncle.UUCP (Donald Lashomb) writes:
>In article <BRISTER.90Aug10222433 at westworld.decwrl.dec.com> brister at decwrl.dec.com (James Brister) writes:
>>I'd like to have a shell script run a command, but if that command doesn't
>>finish in X seconds, then the script should kill it, if the command
>>finishes sooner then the script should immediately continue. Any ideas on
=============================================================
>>how one could achieve this?
>
>I'd approach it like this-
>
>#!/bin/sh
>#
># run the command in the background
># remember its process ID
># sleep for X seconds
># kill the background command --- note: if
># the background command is finished, then
># the kill will fail benignly.
>#
>command &
>cmdpid=$!
>sleep $X
>kill $cmdpid
>
When I saw the original post, I almost answered with this type of solution.
However, it lacks an important part of the request. If the command finishes
early, execution will still wait for the sleep to complete.
However, there just may be a way if the sleep is placed in its own file.
# main program file
SEC={number here} # set the number of seconds to wait
command & # execute in background
cmdpid = $! # save the PID
sleepit $SEC $cmdpid & # sleep in background
wait $cmdpid # wait for the process to complete or be killed
# sleepit - sleep $1 sec and then kill -9 $2
sleep $1
kill -9 $2 2>/dev/null #don't want those nasty error messages.
My thanks to Donald Lashomb's post. Without it, I wouldn't have come up
with this solution.
--
-------------------------------------------------------------
Jay @ SAC-UNIX, Sacramento, Ca. UUCP=...pacbell!sactoh0!jak
If something is worth doing, its worth doing correctly.
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From: Doug Gwyn <gwyn at smoke.brl.mil>
Subject: Re: redirecting standard i/o from an exec'ed programme
Keywords: popen, io, exec, system
Date: 15 Aug 90 13:29:21 GMT
To: info-unix at sem.brl.mil
In article <377 at fe2o3.UUCP> michael at fe2o3.UUCP (Michael Katzmann) writes:
>which execs the command a la "system()" and creates a pipe. "type" and be
>"r" if you want to read from the standard output of "command", or "w" if
>you want to write to standard input. However there doesn't seem to be any
>way to use this routine to do both similtaneously.
>What is the usual way to to this?
This should probably be added the the FAQ list.
The problem with trying to pipe both input and output to an arbitrary
slave process is that deadlock can occur, if both processes are waiting
for not-yet-generated input at the same time. Deadlock can be avoided
only by having BOTH sides follow a strict deadlock-free protocol, but
since that requires cooperation from the processes it is inappropriate
for a popen()-like library function.
-----------------------------
From: Doug Gwyn <gwyn at smoke.brl.mil>
Subject: Re: directory reading
Date: 15 Aug 90 13:31:24 GMT
To: info-unix at sem.brl.mil
In article <BGLENDEN.90Aug14202150 at mandrill.cv.nrao.edu> bglenden at mandrill.cv.nrao.edu (Brian Glendenning) writes:
> if (dp->d_ino == 0)
> continue;
>It looks like modern readdir(3)'s only return pointers to valid entries,
>and NULL at the end, so a test of this type is no longer required.
Yes, all versions of readdir() are expected to filter out "deleted" entries
so there is no need to test for that in the application.
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From: Chris Torek <chris at mimsy.umd.edu>
Subject: Re: 'foo bar' <- What's the meaning of?
Date: 15 Aug 90 13:55:44 GMT
To: info-unix at sem.brl.mil
Please, before asking about `foo', read the introduction to the net and
ask locally. It always creates a stream of interminable partial, wrong,
or otherwise not-quite-perfect answers which then cause further followups
like this one.
The word `foo' has been around for a long time. It appeared in old
`Smokey Stover' cartoons in the 1920s and/or 30s (often on a license
plate or other out-of-the-way place). The connection between `foo',
`bar', and `foobar' and `fubar' is obvious; the connection between this
foo and the one in the cartoons is less so.
In WWII the armed forces came up with a whole series of acronyms,
including FUBAR, SNAFU, and JANFU (F-ed Up Beyond All Recognition;
Situation Normal---All F-ed Up; Joint Army-Navy F-Up).
In the 1970s engineers at DEC designed the `Star' (the VAX-11/780)
and snuck a `FUBAR' register into the Unibus adapter.
In the 1950s and early 1960s the TMRC (Tech Model Railroad Club) at
MIT made much use of many `nonsense words' which eventually became
`hacker's jargon'. For details, see _The_Hacker's_Dictionary_ by
Guy L. Steel Jr. You will find some of the above and a great deal
more (e.g., the distinction between frob and tweak).
--
In-Real-Life: Chris Torek, Univ of MD Comp Sci Dept (+1 301 454 7163)
Domain: chris at cs.umd.edu Path: uunet!mimsy!chris
(New campus phone system, active sometime soon: +1 301 405 2750)
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From: Irving Wolfe <irv at happym.wa.com>
Subject: Re: -F option for awk
Keywords: awk field-separator
Date: 15 Aug 90 13:57:33 GMT
To: info-unix at sem.brl.mil
In <491 at llnl.LLNL.GOV> rjshaw at ramius.ocf.llnl.gov (Robert Shaw) writes:
>print; or print $0; don't do the right thing because the lines come
>out with spaces as the field separators instead of the character given
>to the -F option.
If you change any field, $1 to $NF, then print or print $0 re-composes $0 from
all the individual fields, stringing them together with the output separator
OFS which defaults to space unless you change it. If you don't touch any
fields, awk should just print the originally input $0.
Thus
awk -F: '/^i/' /etc/passwd
(here) produces
irv:-------------:101:1:0000-Irving Wolfe(0000):/u/irv:/bin/gsh
and
awk '/^i/' /etc/passwd
produces
irv:-------------:101:1:0000-Irving Wolfe(0000):/u/irv:/bin/gsh
exactly the same thing.
Both print the /etc/passwd lines that begin with i exactly as is.
But
awk -F: '/^i/ {$2 = "hoho"; print}' /etc/passwd
produces:
irv hoho 101 1 0000-Irving Wolfe(0000) /u/irv /bin/gsh
It will replace all the :s with spaces.
You need
awk -F: 'BEGIN {OFS = FS} /^i/ {$2 = "hoho"; print}' /etc/passwd
which produces
irv:hoho:101:1:0000-Irving Wolfe(0000):/u/irv:/bin/gsh
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From: jian at kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Subject: More questions about how to issue a C-SHELL command within a C program
Date: 15 Aug 90 14:09:17 GMT
To: info-unix at sem.brl.mil
Yesterday I asked for help about how to issue a C-SHELL command within a C
program. I was lucky: serveral people came up with immediate answers. I very
much appreciate those answers.
According to the answers and what I read from the menu, system() and execlp()
should work without any doubts. However, I can't make it. What I want to do
is to issue a csh command to change terminal type within a C program. I did
try:
system("csh -cf \"setenv TERM adm3a");
and
system("/bin/csh -c 'setenv TERM adm3a");
and
execlp("/bin/csh", "csh", "-c", "setenv TERM adm3a", (char *) 0);
There was not any runtime errors if I embeded one of above statements into my
C program. But none of them can change the terminal type. I don't know why.
Would someone point me another way to change terminal type within a C program
or give me some hints what I did wrong. I would appreciate any helps.
Jian Q. Li
jian at kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
-----------------------------
From: Randal Schwartz <merlyn at iwarp.intel.com>
Subject: Re: More questions about how to issue a C-SHELL command within a C program
Date: 15 Aug 90 22:15:04 GMT
Sender: news at iwarp.intel.com
To: info-unix at sem.brl.mil
In article <25285.26c9113d at kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, jian at kuhub writes:
| Yesterday I asked for help about how to issue a C-SHELL command within a C
| program. I was lucky: serveral people came up with immediate answers. I very
| much appreciate those answers.
|
| According to the answers and what I read from the menu, system() and execlp()
| should work without any doubts. However, I can't make it. What I want to do
| is to issue a csh command to change terminal type within a C program. I did
| try:
| system("csh -cf \"setenv TERM adm3a");
| and
| system("/bin/csh -c 'setenv TERM adm3a");
|
| and
| execlp("/bin/csh", "csh", "-c", "setenv TERM adm3a", (char *) 0);
|
| There was not any runtime errors if I embeded one of above statements into my
| C program. But none of them can change the terminal type. I don't know why.
| Would someone point me another way to change terminal type within a C program
| or give me some hints what I did wrong. I would appreciate any helps.
Aha. As I said in my private mail, *why* would you want to execute a
csh command? Now I can see.
The short answer:
You *cannot* change an environment variable (such as TERM) from a
child process. The shell provides a *copy* of its environment to the
children processes (such as your C program), so changes to that copy
(or in your case, using a further csh which has its *own* copy), will
not affect the parent shell. This is by design, so don't ask "Well,
are they going to fix this some day?"
The longer answer:
If you invoke a program from the shell in such a way that the shell is
going to expect an answer back and take action on that, you can get
away with it. For example, if your program "pickterm" is invoked
from the csh as:
setenv TERM `pickterm`
then all "pickterm" has to do is output the desired term-type on
stdout. If you need interaction, you may need to arrange for the csh
to get it from a file. For example,
pickterm /tmp/$$ && setenv TERM `cat /tmp/$$`
rm /tmp/$$
in which case pickterm would open /tmp/$$ for output, put the desired
termtype into it after interacting with the user, and then exit
successfully.
Either of these solutions could be wrapped up inside an alias to
prevent the nitty gritties from being exposed to the poor user.
Just another Unix hacker,
--
/=Randal L. Schwartz, Stonehenge Consulting Services (503)777-0095 ==========\
| on contract to Intel's iWarp project, Beaverton, Oregon, USA, Sol III |
| merlyn at iwarp.intel.com ...!any-MX-mailer-like-uunet!iwarp.intel.com!merlyn |
\=Cute Quote: "Welcome to Portland, Oregon, home of the California Raisins!"=/
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From: "Frank P. Bresz" <fpb at ittc.wec.com>
Subject: Re: More questions about how to issue a C-SHELL command within a C program
Date: 16 Aug 90 04:48:55 GMT
Sender: news at ittc.wec.com
To: info-unix at sem.brl.mil
In article <1990Aug15.221504.348 at iwarp.intel.com> merlyn at iwarp.intel.com (Randal Schwartz) writes:
>In article <25285.26c9113d at kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, jian at kuhub writes:
[ Stuff deleted ]
>| execlp("/bin/csh", "csh", "-c", "setenv TERM adm3a", (char *) 0);
>|
>| There was not any runtime errors if I embeded one of above statements into my
>| C program. But none of them can change the terminal type. I don't know why.
>| Would someone point me another way to change terminal type within a C program
>| or give me some hints what I did wrong. I would appreciate any helps.
>The short answer:
>You *cannot* change an environment variable (such as TERM) from a
>child process. The shell provides a *copy* of its environment to the
>children processes (such as your C program), so changes to that copy
>(or in your case, using a further csh which has its *own* copy), will
>not affect the parent shell. This is by design, so don't ask "Well,
>are they going to fix this some day?"
Why not just use the putenv system call with something akin to:
putenv("TERM=adm3a"); /* notify subprocess that it is an adm3a terminal */
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From: rjshaw at ramius.llnl.gov
Subject: login shell suspend
Date: 15 Aug 90 16:29:18 GMT
Sender: usenet at llnl.llnl.gov
To: info-unix at sem.brl.mil
Hi.
Who knows the history behind "Can't suspend a login shell (yet)."
Is there a day when we will be able to do so, or is the "yet" a joke
that I don't understand? When I rlogin somewhere and <RET> ~ CNTL-Z <RET>
isn't that a suspension of the login shell on the remote machine? Isn't
suspension just sleeping?
No, I haven't read either of the internals books yet, but I'm planning
to get to the Berkeley one any day now [ half :-) half :-( ]
Thanx in advance for responses
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From: Robert Hartman <hartman at ide.com>
Subject: Re: directory "indexer"
Keywords: search,directory,index
Date: 15 Aug 90 16:42:40 GMT
Sender: Bert Beaton <bert at ide.com>
To: info-unix at sem.brl.mil
In article <335 at nih-csl.nih.gov> tpersky at alw.nih.gov (Ted Persky) writes:
>It has come to my attention that our staff on the whole spends
>a great deal of time during the day searching for that one
>certain file in a large directory tree. For example, try finding
>a certain fragment of source code in the X11 distribution.
>The people in our lab always seem to be asking each other
>to help them locate the path name for "foo.c".
If you have the BSD version of find, you can use the "fast-find" feature to
build the database you want.
This wasn't documented very well in the BSD man page. However, if you can
get at a copy of a Sun 4.x man page, it's documented there.
-r
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From: Chet Ramey <chet at cwns1.cwru.edu>
Subject: Re: Compiling GNU Bourne Again SHell (bash) on SUN OS
Date: 15 Aug 90 18:15:54 GMT
Sender: news at usenet.ins.cwru.edu
Followup-To: gnu.bash.bug
To: info-unix at sem.brl.mil
In article <24173 at adm.BRL.MIL> hsw at sparta.com (Howard Weiss) writes:
$ I've got a copy of the Bourne Again SHell (bash) - version 1.05 that
$ On the SUN, the make file says that its compiling for a SUN 3 running
$ OS 4, but has problems with the bash-Makefile (fixed by commenting out
$ the offending lines which are setting up stuff to build backup files) and
$ then has problems with compiling y.tab.c (which is the result of running
$ yacc on parse.y). I have already gotten and included all the latest
$ patches for this version and have sent off a message to bug-bash but
$ have not heard anything.
$
$ Has anyone had this problem and/or does anyone know of a fix. I'm not
$ versed in yacc (and don't really want to be).
The yacc problem is solved by changing the lines in parse.y that read
if (interactive)
YYACCEPT;
else
YYABORT;
to read
if (interactive)
{
YYACCEPT;
}
else
{
YYABORT;
}
YYACCEPT and YYABORT became compound statements in SunOS 4.1 yacc.
You will also need to use the SunOS malloc, because of the `localtime'
bug (take USE_GNU_MALLOC out of the appropriate section in machines.h).
There are a number of problems with bash 1.05. All have been fixed
for the next release (whenever that is).
Chet
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From: Ambarish Malpani <ambarish at gandhi.uucp>
Subject: Re: How to issue a C SHELL command within a C program
Date: 15 Aug 90 18:23:15 GMT
To: info-unix at sem.brl.mil
In article <25279.26c7fd35 at kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> jian at kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>How can I issue a statment that executes a C SHELL command within a C program?
>I would appreciate any helps.
>
>Jian Q. Li
>jian at kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Try using the system() library routine
eg. system("pwd");
Ambarish
sun!valid!ambarish
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From: Guy Harris <guy at auspex.auspex.com>
Subject: Re: How to issue a C SHELL command with
Date: 15 Aug 90 20:28:08 GMT
To: info-unix at sem.brl.mil
>> How can I issue a statment that executes a C SHELL command within a C program?
>> I would appreciate any helps.
>
>You can use the "system" call. Use "man system" for more info.
Well, sort of. In order to run a *C* shell command, as the original
poster specified, rather than a *Bourne* shell command, as "system()"
does on any valid implementation, you have to construct a Bourne shell
command that runs the C shell, asking it to run a C shell command....
In general, I'd recommend replacing the C shell command in question with
a Bourne shell command, if at all possible, and just using "system()".
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From: Mark Harrison <harrison at necssd.nec.com>
Subject: Re: What's wrong with this Bourne shell script?
Date: 15 Aug 90 18:36:10 GMT
To: info-unix at sem.brl.mil
In article <FPB.90Aug13191108 at ittc.ittc.wec.com>,
fpb at ittc.wec.com (Frank P. Bresz) writes:
> Where is Jon's addcol. I tried to write one a while back and kept
> screwing it up. I would like to see a working version.
Here is a simple one in awk. Replace $4 with your column number.
awk '{ tot += $4} END{print tot}'
^^
If you put this into a shell script called addcol, you can say
awk '{ tot += $'$1'} END{print tot}'
and invoke it by
addcol 4
Example: How many bytes in my files?
ls -l c* | awk '{ tot += $4} END{print tot}'
ls -l c* | addcol 4
Hope this helps!
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From: "Frank P. Bresz" <fpb at ittc.wec.com>
Subject: Re: What's wrong with this Bourne shell script?
Date: 16 Aug 90 04:54:19 GMT
Sender: news at ittc.wec.com
To: info-unix at sem.brl.mil
In article <1990Aug14.171056.17982 at iwarp.intel.com> merlyn at iwarp.intel.com (Randal Schwartz) writes:
>In article <FPB.90Aug13191108 at ittc.ittc.wec.com>, fpb at ittc (Frank P. Bresz) writes:
>| >or if you have Jon's addcol, even simpler:
>|
>| > stat -s * | addcol -2
>|
>| Where is Jon's addcol. I tried to write one a while back and kept
>| screwing it up. I would like to see a working version.
>for addcol -1, try:
> perl -ane '$s += $F[0]; print "$s\n" if eof;'
>for addcol -2:
> perl -ane '$s += $F[1]; print "$s\n" if eof;'
>Others may be derived by noticing the pattern. :-)
>Just another Perl hacker,
That would be fine if I had or wanted pearl. I was under the
impression that Jon's addcol was an awk script (I think that's where the
original thread came from anway) in which the -# was the column you wanted
to add and it would magically add up the numbers in column 1 or 7 or
whatever column you wanted under argumentalized control instead of having
separate scripts for each possible set of columns you want to add.
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From: Chuck Brown <univac at pirates.uucp>
Subject: New UNIX Network Questions
Keywords: sequent unisys banyan government
Date: 15 Aug 90 18:59:30 GMT
Followup-To: comp.unix.questions
To: info-unix at sem.brl.mil
We (City of Savannah) are in the first phases of a conversion from a
Unisys 1100/90 mainframe environement to a UNIX environment. Our network
will (if current plans hold out) consist of a reasonably large UNIX box
(Sequent / Unisys), an inter-building fiber backbone, and 6 Banyan servers
with 400-600 nodes, all 386sx/VGA systems. The applications on the UNIX system
will all be accounting based. The Banyan applications will be Word Processing,
e-mail, spreadsheet, general office productivity) The UNIX applications will
be primarily Informix based. Several questions have come up, and we would
appreciate any information, comments, or critisims.
- What would be the reason for selection of Unisys over Sequent, if any,
since the box is physically the same? (U6000/80, 10 processors, 128
meg, 9 gig of mass storage).
- Banyan claims that this type of arrangement will be difficult to manage
with Novell, Novell claims otherwise. Opinions?
- Applications we are looking for for this and other areas include:
Municiple (fund) accounting
Police/Fire Computer Aided Dispatch
Parking Citations
Utility Billing
Vehicle Maintenance
All comments welcome! Thanks in advance.
==============================================================================
Chuck Brown City Of Savannah
Systems Programmer 133 Montgomery St.
Voice: (912) 944-4793 Room 507
uunet\!pirates\!univac Savannah, GA 31402
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From: Klaus Moeller <moeller at uniol.uucp>
Subject: MACH stripped from AT&T code ?
Date: 15 Aug 90 19:58:40 GMT
To: info-unix at sem.brl.mil
Hi
It was said somewhere( I don't know where) that the MACH Kernel
contains no AT&T code anymore.
Is this right or has somebody made a joke or is this planned for the future?
As far as I know, MACH still contains BSD code and BSD contains AT&T code.
Has the AT&T code been removed from MACH or is it still in the system via
the BSD code ?
Thanks
Klaus
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From: Jeff MacDonald <jmacdon at cg-atla.agfa.com>
Subject: recursive variable substitution in csh
Date: 15 Aug 90 21:49:37 GMT
To: info-unix at sem.brl.mil
In the C-shell, how does one evaluate a variable which contains the
name of a variable in order to get the value of the variable
contained by the variable that one is evaluating?
To wit:
set x = 'ABC'
set y = '$x'
set z = # some function of y such that $z == "ABC"
Don't ask how I got into this predicament, it's not funny!
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From: Atul Parulekar <atul at ncoast.org>
Subject: getting the exit value of an exec'd program
Date: 15 Aug 90 22:39:52 GMT
To: info-unix at sem.brl.mil
May be the answer is in the manual, but I have not been able to find it.
My problem is that if I run a program using fork and execvp, how do I get
the exit value of the exec'd program into the main program.
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From: "BURNS,JIM" <gt0178a at prism.gatech.edu>
Subject: Re: getting the exit value of an exec'd program
Date: 16 Aug 90 04:25:11 GMT
To: info-unix at sem.brl.mil
in article <1990Aug15.223952.1175 at NCoast.ORG>, atul at NCoast.ORG (Atul Parulekar) says:
> May be the answer is in the manual, but I have not been able to find it.
> My problem is that if I run a program using fork and execvp, how do I get
> the exit value of the exec'd program into the main program.
Exec doesn't return a status - it doesn't return at all. Use wait(2) in
the parent program. Its man page describes the union wait status variable
returned by wait(2) and its variants. (Exact return type also varies
between wait() variants and diff. unices.)
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From: Mike Van Pelt <mvp at hsv3.uucp>
Subject: Wanted: login & getty source (non-AT&T)
Date: 15 Aug 90 23:41:37 GMT
To: info-unix at sem.brl.mil
Is there a public domain and/or copylefted (i.e., GNU) version of the
getty and login programs that do not require an AT&T source liscence?
I would like to add some local security features here, and this would
be very helpful. (We're running SunOS, which is BSD-derived.)
Please email, and I will summarize any responses.
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From: "Jay A. Konigsberg" <jak at sactoh0.uucp>
Subject: Re: Spy Programs??
Date: 16 Aug 90 01:46:26 GMT
To: info-unix at sem.brl.mil
In article <24123 at adm.BRL.MIL> senetza at hg.uleth.ca (Leonard Senetza) writes:
>I have a few 'hostile' users on my system here. I was wondering if anyone has
>a 'spy' type of program that would allow me to watch/record/control other
>users' sessions. I could possibly write one myself, but why re-invent the
>wheel?
>
There are a few ways to do this. However, assuming you _are_ the
administrator of the system, there is one reasonably easy way.
Take the cables running to these hostile users terminals and splice into
them. Assuming everyone (including yourself) is using the same type of
terminal, you can then run the T from the splice to your terminal. To
be on the safe side, you probably don't want to connect the "write" pin
(2 or 3, I can never remember).
Other options include re-writing the shell, taping into their history
file and putting a `tee -a` into their .profile. Each method has varying
levels of information available.
One last option, available to anyone on a system, is to write a shell
daemon that does periodic "ps -lfu u_name" (or similar) to check their
processes and CPU activity. While this meathod doesn't show exactly
what a user is doing, it does provide useful information to an
administrator.
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From: Rob Freyder <rob at lafayet.uucp>
Subject: TeX and LaTeX Docs and man pages
Date: 16 Aug 90 02:39:50 GMT
To: info-unix at sem.brl.mil
I have binaries for TeX and LaTeX for Xenix... but I need docs and man
pages ... Can someone tell where I can get via anonymous uucp... or
by email ??
Thanks.
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From: "M. Pinghua Young" <mpyoung at portia.stanford.edu>
Subject: How does a C program know its input is being redirected?
Keywords: input, stdin, redirect, pipe, C program
Date: 16 Aug 90 05:00:13 GMT
Sender: "M. Pinghua Young" <mpyoung at portia.stanford.edu>
To: info-unix at sem.brl.mil
I am writing a program that prompts users for various inputs. However,
the user can also put the input in a file and pipe it to my program, or
use input redirection "<". In this case I don't want the program to
prompt anything. Can anyone tell me how to achieve that? Please send
me e-mails. Thank!
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